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China wants its massive EV fleet to plug in and charge the power grid (www.businesstimes.com.sg)

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By 2040, EVs in China could have enough capacity to supply all of the country’s peak demand needs if they were V2G-capable

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[–] partial_accumen 4 points 10 months ago (9 children)

So China is experimenting with Virtual Power Plants like Tesla is doing in Texas and California with its Powerwall Product except China wants to use the country's EVs.

[–] evenglow 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not experimenting. Selling. V2G is much further along in different countries.

Battery banks are slightly different in that the primary purpose is not transportation.

[–] partial_accumen 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not experimenting. Selling. V2G is much further along in different countries.

The article is talking about only 50 cars in this experiment. If you have a source that shows they're farther along and actually commercializing this, I'm interested in seeing it.

[–] evenglow 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'd call it more than an experiment. I'm not aware of any such thing in USA but there's a few in China. There is one community in Florida though that is trying off grid. Not sure where they are these days.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/solar-babcock-ranch-florida-hurricane-ian-climate/index.html

Alibaba search :
https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.pageModule_fy23_pc_search_bar.keydown__Enter&tab=all&searchText=v2g+bidirectional+dc+wall+box+ocpp

1st random result :
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/V2G-V2H-bidirectional-wallbox-7kW-11kW_1600778329828.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.6aea5a9cvkXuoP

Related,
China’s New Solar Test Is Finding Enough Grid Space for Rooftop Panels
https://archive.is/mHAvm#selection-5205.0-5209.60

And this article is from 2023.08.22. Self-consumption V2G system launched for Chinese national park
https://www.smart-energy.com/regional-news/asia/self-consumption-v2g-system-launched-for-chinese-national-park/

I'll have to see if I can find more. It's been awhile since I looked into V2G.

[–] partial_accumen 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I looked at your links and I'm not sure which point you're trying make.

My comment was specifically about 3 things combined together: China, Virtual Power Plant, and V2G

None of your links point to all 3 happening together like the OPs article (which is why this is new and interesting).

Your links:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/02/us/solar-babcock-ranch-florida-hurricane-ian-climate/index.html - solar in general in Florida with one comment about locals using batteries - no China, No Virtual Power Plant, no V2G
https://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.pageModule_fy23_pc_search_bar.keydown__Enter&tab=all&searchText=v2g+bidirectional+dc+wall+box+ocpp - a V2G compatible charger, no Virtual Power Plant, no collaboration/integration with other V2G users, no China implementation (besides the item being sold in China)
https://archive.is/mHAvm#selection-5205.0-5209.60 - China, and battery, but no Virtual Power Plant, and no V2G
https://www.smart-energy.com/regional-news/asia/self-consumption-v2g-system-launched-for-chinese-national-park/ - China, V2G, but no Virtual Power plant. This is the closest relevant link, but its still the topic I was referring to with all 3 elements in the OP article.

[–] evenglow 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You didn't ask me to make a point.

[–] partial_accumen 0 points 10 months ago

You are refuting my point that the 50 cars is an experiment at this point. I'm asking you to back up your claim with information that says that China is much farther along beyond a single experiment of 50 cars of Virtual Power Plant and V2G.

That is the point I asked you to make because you said my point was incorrect or at least inaccurate.

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