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Because the alt-left MHGA recruits would disregard or ban this list on any of their echo chambers, I'll post it here for the intellectually curious. It is a biased source, but filled with starting points if you want to investigate, and filled with FACTS. You can research individual attacks accounted for here, which is a better list than can be found in most places, with more initial details for your research.

It's a rough resource for people peddling a false narrative of innocent, defenseless, oppressed Palestinians. But sometimes facts ARE rough.

THIS DOES NOT EXCUSE ISRAEL'S WAR CRIMES, and doesn't mean there's not a HUGE list of those either. The point is, those you will always find celebrated in the MHGA echo chambers, whereas this would get instantly removed by the Hamas in training.

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[–] rivermonster 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Start with common ground: FUCK that radical Jewish terrorist. The whole Kach movement are radical right-wing terrorists--they should be eliminated by any means necessary. I shed no tears for eliminating terrorists (regardless of their religon or country of residence). I think we can agree on that, right? I sure hope we do.

Goldstein was widely denounced in Israel and by communities in the Jewish diaspora,[6] with many attributing his act to insanity.[7] Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin condemned the attack, describing Goldstein as a "degenerate murderer" and "a shame on Zionism and an embarrassment to Judaism".[8][9][10]

If only the Palestinian response was the same to Hamas terror attacks, right?

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/

https://ground.news/article/telegram-group-with-3-000-unrwa-teachers-praises-october-7-attacks?utm_source=headline-link&utm_medium=share

Almost three in four Palestinians believe the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israel was correct, and the ensuing Gaza war has lifted support for the Islamist group both there and in the West Bank, a survey from a respected Palestinian polling institute found. The Palestinian Center for Policy Survey and Research (PCPSR) findings were published as international alarm grows over the spiralling Palestinian civilian toll in the Israeli counter-offensive against Hamas, now in its third month. Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were undecided or gave no answer.

And the direct cause of all Hamas bombings is their stated founding principal of genocide of Isreal and Jews. That part isn't hard, period. I'm not sure what the point of picking out one incident in the cycle is, unless you're just trying to say they had no agenda to get Bibi elected. In which case we'd very much disagree, and we can debate that further. I just want to clarify.

This Atlantic critique is worth a read:

https://archive.ph/r0fPC