this post was submitted on 14 Jan 2024
228 points (97.5% liked)

Apple

17525 readers
21 users here now

Welcome

to the largest Apple community on Lemmy. This is the place where we talk about everything Apple, from iOS to the exciting upcoming Apple Vision Pro. Feel free to join the discussion!

Rules:
  1. No NSFW Content
  2. No Hate Speech or Personal Attacks
  3. No Ads / Spamming
    Self promotion is only allowed in the pinned monthly thread

Lemmy Code of Conduct

Communities of Interest:

Apple Hardware
Apple TV
Apple Watch
iPad
iPhone
Mac
Vintage Apple

Apple Software
iOS
iPadOS
macOS
tvOS
watchOS
Shortcuts
Xcode

Community banner courtesy of u/Antsomnia.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MsPenguinette 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The company reportedly told employees they can apply for other jobs within the company, though some doubt they’re qualified for other Apple roles in the city, and most don’t plan to move.

Sounds like it's QA people. Which sucks extra hard cause that's a much harder field to get another job in. If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters. I bet a lot of people will make the move and it's quite shitty and cynical from apple to move a team that doesn't have a lot of options.

If they tried to move an engineering team to texas, they know they'd get told to get fucked

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters.

Not with all the layoffs lately.
https://layoffs.fyi

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Go check out the net jobs over last year. Reality is all that happened is the folks let go work elsewhere for better companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Very anecdotal, but I’m rather skeptical of that. Where I work, we haven’t hired in more than a year despite some decent growth. Seems to be quite similar for most of my circles, very little movement and hiring gojng on. I used to get harassed by recruiters 5-10x a week on LinkedIn alone despite being employed and listed as unavailable. Now it’s more like a cold message or two a month. Maybe it’s regional or something…?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Net 700 IT job gains in 2023 as all the positions cut did was move chairs between buildings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that.

Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs.

But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

And it is easier to argue against claims no one made.
Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023.
So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it.