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Seems like something that WFH would solve without having to upend so many employee lives.

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[–] MsPenguinette 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The company reportedly told employees they can apply for other jobs within the company, though some doubt they’re qualified for other Apple roles in the city, and most don’t plan to move.

Sounds like it's QA people. Which sucks extra hard cause that's a much harder field to get another job in. If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters. I bet a lot of people will make the move and it's quite shitty and cynical from apple to move a team that doesn't have a lot of options.

If they tried to move an engineering team to texas, they know they'd get told to get fucked

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they were software engineers, the world would be their oysters.

Not with all the layoffs lately.
https://layoffs.fyi

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Go check out the net jobs over last year. Reality is all that happened is the folks let go work elsewhere for better companies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Very anecdotal, but I’m rather skeptical of that. Where I work, we haven’t hired in more than a year despite some decent growth. Seems to be quite similar for most of my circles, very little movement and hiring gojng on. I used to get harassed by recruiters 5-10x a week on LinkedIn alone despite being employed and listed as unavailable. Now it’s more like a cold message or two a month. Maybe it’s regional or something…?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Net 700 IT job gains in 2023 as all the positions cut did was move chairs between buildings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That number alone isn’t particularly telling. What were those IT jobs? Did we lose a bunch of programmers and software architects and gained T1 support roles? Permanent vs contractual? What percentage had a pay cut/raise? How many people entered the workforce (graduated, new hires) vs how many left (retired or career change) this year?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You should probably go look at what the historical numbers are for that.

Far more than 700 people entered the IT workforce last year

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And yet there was a NET (please look the definition up) job increase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And if you'd actually go look at data from before 2023, you'll see that's the lowest it's been in over a decade by well over 100k jobs.

But yeah everything's dandy if you just ignore reality

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

And it is easier to argue against claims no one made.
Data before 2023 isn't relevant as the thread is about the Lay Offs in 2023.
So kindly shove your moved goal post back from whence you pulled it.