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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Ah yes, a paper about wolves following a leader which was disproven by the same person that made it obviously applies to humans

The average pack size in North America is eight wolves and in Europe 5.5 wolves, with the biggest being 42

The largest human "pack" size is 37800000

i couldnt find the average size of a city, only the largest

42 is sightly smaller than 37800000 so studies on wolves about social structure might be wrong if you replaces wolves with humans

[–] danielbln 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear you, but you counter is a little disingenuous. A city isn't your pack, your social circle is. And that's probably smaller than 42. Just because you're in a city of millions doesn't mean you directly interact with them in a social way, we are still animals of small social groups, even if we live in a global space of billions. The alpha male stuff is still bunk science trash of course.

[–] Syrc 0 points 1 year ago

Aren’t Alpha males (and females) an actual thing in many species, like primates? I thought just the wolves one was disproven (not that it means anything for human dynamics of course).

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