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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What do you think she should have included that would have convinced US lawmakers to end the special relationship with Israel?

???? The insanity of acting like we all just have to make the right statements to solve this. I'm talking about the way she frames the genocide and how people who take up this framing lack a solution.

Literally cursory mention of steady flow of arms is enough for you?? That could mean guns and vests lmao. This article would have been lame in October. It may as well be 20 years old.

Sure I'll write a full length response this evening since you clearly see no problem with someone decrying actual military responses to this horror as war crimes of their own and not putting too fine a point on the babies Israel is disintegrating daily.

Anyone treating this as a normal war is useless. You've all done less than nothing, you've tried to delegitimize the only actual direct action which has harmed Israel's economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The insanity of acting like we all just have to make the right statements to solve this."

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. She has advocated for direct action and she has advocated for BDS. What other nonviolent tactics would you have her list?

"Literally cursory mention of steady flow of arms is enough for you?"

Everyone even moderately familiar with this issue understands that Israel is the largest recipient of US foreign aid and that the US has always provided political cover internationally.

Do you think she should have to mention that in every single article in order to pass your purity test?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nonviolent protests and just boycotting is extremely anemic when you also continue to support the narrative framing abt Hamas atrocities that is used to continue the genocide & support the existence of the rogue nuclear state that perpetrates them.

Saying "yes you're right but please be merciful" impresses you because you love rhetoric. Screw you!

Everyone even moderately familiar with this issue understands that Israel is the largest recipient of US foreign aid and that the US has always provided political cover internationally.

You skipped over everything else about the content of that aid and how it is used. So did she. She just acknowledges it and moves on as if it's barely important.

Okay keep doing this bazinga shit if you want I will just come back tonight with an essay

Purity test lmao. Not even. I'm just clarifying what she means to you.