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What's your opinion on Snap/Flatpak, and why? (self.linux)

submitted 1 year ago by IUsedTo to c/[email protected]

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I know snap is fairly unpopular in the Linux community, and I've seen mixed responses regarding Flatpak. I wanted to know, what's the general opinion of people in this community regarding this 2 package managers?

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[–] Zeus 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

pretty unpopular opinion i believe, but i loathe them. they feel like installing apps from the windows store, but worse. i use them on steam deck and my laptop, but they often fail to launch with no feedback[^1], won't accept drag&dropped files, store their dotfiles in weird places, take up much more disc space (and therefore take literally almost 10x as long to download), won't inherit the theme (i think because plasma stores the gtk theme in a non-standard place), etc. they feel like they've been designed to flout what os developers have built up over many decades and are just a struggle to use.

[^1]: on steam deck particularly (so i know it's not a configuration i've screwed up) no flatpaks will launch unless i launch them twice. even after that, there's a long delay (~1 minute) and then two instances launch. i know this sounds like i should just wait until the first one launches, but that doesn't work

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Flatpak theming issue is really annoying, yeah. There’s a rather limited pool of GTK themes to choose from in Flathub, but as long as you’re running one of those themes in your DE (assuming GNOME or other GTK-based), themes will inherit. Can’t speak to KDE as I haven’t used Plasma as primary.

Other than that, Flatpak has been great. I use it reasonably heavily on a laptop that’s slower than a Steam Deck (Ryzen 5 3500u, 8GB DDR4, 1TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus) and haven’t run into performance issues on multiple distros — EndeavourOS, Pop!_OS, LMDE, Fedora, an early version of Vanilla OS, and most recently Debian 12. On my desktop I don’t feel a performance difference between Flatpak and native.

[–] Zeus 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i did look into solving this, but it was a while ago and i've forgotten. it's something like gnome stores the theme in ~/.gtkrc, whereas plasma stores it in ~/.config/gtk/settingsrc; which flatpak doesn't check. it also requires screwing with flatseal, didn't work with gtk4, and was only minor compared to my other issues. it might work better if i used a flatpak theme, but there's only about 10 available

as for performance, it's fine once the app starts, but startup takes ages. also, some flatpaks don't seem to accept "open with" - bottles, for example, even though q4wine does

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