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‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I don't understand why people are defending AI companies

Because it's not just big companies that are affected; it's the technology itself. People saying you can't train a model on copyrighted works are essentially saying nobody can develop those kinds of models at all. A lot of people here are naturally opposed to the idea that the development of any useful technology should be effectively illegal.

[–] BURN 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You can make these models just fine using licensed data. So can any hobbyist.

You just can’t steal other people’s creations to make your models.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Of course it sounds bad when you using the word "steal", but I'm far from convinced that training is theft, and using inflammatory language just makes me less inclined to listen to what you have to say.

[–] BURN 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Training is theft imo. You have to scrape and store the training data, which amounts to copyright violation based on replication. It’s an incredibly simple concept. The model isn’t the problem here, the training data is.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Training is theft imo.

Then it appears we have nothing to discuss.

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