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[–] poopkins 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What are your thoughts on the ATC transcript?

[ATC] JA722A Tokyo Tower. Good evening. No.1, taxi to holding point C-5.

[JA722A] Taxi to holding point C-5, JA722A No.1. Thank you.

~~While JA722A clearly did not have ATC clearance to enter the runway, the ATC instruction seems to me non-standard phrasing, which arguably left this open to interpretation. Especially because there is no "holding point" C-5 (there is only intersection C-5) and ATC did not stipulate to hold short of 34R.~~

Miyamoto may have interpreted this as an instruction to enter onto 34R at C-5 and hold.

Edit: the ATC instruction and the read back were both in standard ICAO phraseology.

[–] thirdBreakfast 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

[ATC] JA722A Tokyo Tower. Good evening. No.1, taxi to holding point C-5.

I feel like I would have held short and reported there. If they wanted me on the runway I'd expect a 'line up and wait' instruction or a 'cleared for takeoff 34L'.

Don't confuse me for an expert though, my qualifications for these comments is I've spent way too much time watching vatsim videos.

[–] poopkins 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I would hold short of the runway at the stop line before C-5 and use that verbiage when reading back to ATC.