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Elon Musk "We dug our own grave with 'FULL SELF DRIVING"" (www.youtube.com)

submitted 11 months ago by Buffalox to c/technology

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https://www.youtube.com/@Thunderf00t

I considered hard weather this really belongs in Technology, but came to the conclusion that exposing a scammer that is considered a tech genius, does belong here. Because debunking a technology company is as important as showing it, when it's considered valid.

That said, I believe most people here are already aware that Musk is not to be trusted blindly. But just how bad it really is, may be news to some.

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[–] Buffalox 13 points 11 months ago (12 children)

How is he wrong about SpaceX? As far as I can tell, he is spot on. If a NASA program had as many failures as SpaceX has, it would be closed down. And the economic claims Musk make for SpaceX are insane.

[+] ylph 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

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[–] Buffalox 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Starship is a very ambitious program, really pushing the boundaries

Oh boy! Do you mean kind of like Hyperloop and Full Autonomous driving? Or maybe the laughable Human/Robot AI program, where Its stated goal is "to understand the true nature of the universe"?!?! How do you not see Musk is a narcissist, if he believes his own idiocy, he is an idiot, if not he is a con man, there is no between.

declaring it doomed based on the test flight results so far is really premature.

I don't, I just don't believe the economic forecast Musk is claiming. Just like when he in 2019 claimed buying any other car than a Tesla would be stupid, because only Tesla would have full self driving next year.

[+] ylph 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Buffalox 2 points 11 months ago

Full Autonomous driving is definitely also a very ambitious project. I do think it is in principle feasible, and has great potential,

Problem is he promised it was basically ready in 2016, and would be available for customers "next year". Yes "we" will eventually get there I think, but it will probably not be Tesla.

I do think Musk is a narcissist, I don’t think he is an idiot.

I agree, He is mostly an idiot because he can't help being a narcissist, it makes him behave irrationally with over confidence.

I also don’t think he is a genius, more like someone with decent amount of technical competence

Exactly, obviously he has some sort of competence running a business, but you can be both competent in one way and an idiot in others at the same time.

I don’t think that takes away much from the actual achievements of both Tesla and especially SpaceX however.

Yes I admit the success of Tesla is a huge achievement, and I too defended Musk for making the electric car cool and also show it was feasible. When the critics began. I still admit that's a significant achievement, but today as ThunderF00t says, just because he may have been a net positive, doesn't mean we should look the other way when he does harm later.

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