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weird (adj.)

c. 1400,

• "having power to control fate", from wierd (n.), from Old English wyrd "fate, chance, fortune; destiny; the Fates," literally "that which comes,"

• from Proto-Germanic wurthiz (cognates: Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt "fate," Old Norse urðr "fate, one of the three Norns"),

• from PIE wert- "to turn, to wind," (cognates: German werden, Old English weorðan "to become"),

• from root wer- (3) "to turn, bend" (see versus).

• For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," compare phrase turn into "become."

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[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

some background subconscious process/creature/force will transform your perception or conception for you

Like u/mindseal said, it's you. I think the whole idea of SI is to eliminate any notions of separate entities, even notions that the subconscious is something separate. Like when you dream, it is you who has created the dream, but we don't accredit it to some outside force just because we did not actively shape it.

I like the way the patterning of experience explains it. Especially this

The pattern will overlap with other patterns you are holding onto. This is why it does not immediately become your experience. It is immediately true but your other patterns fit it into a time framework.

Originally commented by u/WrongStar on 2017-08-08 00:58:32 (dla9l74)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like u/mindseal said, it's you. I think the whole idea of SI is to eliminate any notions of separate entities, even notions that the subconscious is something separate. Like when you dream, it is you who has created the dream, but we don't accredit it to some outside force just because we did not actively shape it.

At an ultimate level this is true, but there are still intermediary illusory entities operating in your world if you are othering at all. So when you drop a rock. You don't consciously drag the rock to the ground. It just falls. Your subconscious is doing that automatically for you. Or when you have a conversation with a person. You aren't consciously coming up with thoughts and words and a background life for this character. And yet they stand there talking to you about it. That's because there's some subconscious process/creature/force operating in the background of your mind generating that character.

Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2017-08-08 01:33:05 (dlabers)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You aren't consciously coming up with thoughts and words and a background life for this character

Yes, which is why I brought up the dream analogy. You aren't consciously creating the dream, but it was still you who created it.

It's up for grabs what you want to call that aspect of you, whether it be subconscious or whatever, but I think it's important not to attribute it to an outside force. George Berkeley ended up doing that and calling it God (a good video on that)

Originally commented by u/WrongStar on 2017-08-08 01:51:06 (dlacex4)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago

It IS you in an ultimate sense. But there a difference between what you consciously control and what is operating subconsciously in your mind. You can make what is subconscious conscious, but while it is subconscious it is not conscious (granted that this is a continuum). So, you might say you are growing all the trees. But you're not doing that consciously, and you probably can't just snap your fingers and make them all start to 'un-grow' back into seeds. That power is operating mostly unconsciously and is othered.

Originally commented by u/AesirAnatman on 2017-08-08 01:56:26 (dlacpqq)