Asklemmy

I think in general a lot of people want mostly the same things, but by looking at a problem from a slightly different angle, you can arrive at largely different conclusions

This is why its incredibly important to listen to opposing viewpoints and respect those that dont agree with you, and welcome discussion. Not isolate those or push them away. I see it even happening here already on this platform over at kbin and shitjustworks. Its not a good approach imho.

However, I don’t believe that it is just intrinsically because the government is crappy at doing their job. I constantly see opponents fighting against these very institutions, trying to defund them, trying to make them ineffective.

I agree with that to an extent. But even when all parties band together to pass something, it often just goes haywire. Look at the PPP stuff and the early refunds for citizens. There was no real plan, it was rushed (for a lot of reasons, many very valid), there was LOADS of grift and even when there wasnt, it wasnt targeted. Some states werent good arbiters of the program either. Everyone got early refunds whether their income was impacted or not and the federal government had to kinda go that route because some state programs were a mess. Which put us in a corner with inflation now. It came from a good place, just the delivery was mangled.

To your point, i dont think it comes from a bad place. But the reason we need government is because the world has malicious actors and those on the take and the government is supposed to limit the damage those actors can do. That occurs from the individual level up to the company.

Government is supposed to limit the damage there. But if the government gets too big, it becomes a target itself for those malicious actors and can be abused in its own right. And thats been clear throughout history, and its not necessarily a problem for a specific type of government, though some are more prone to it than others imho.