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I don't know that anyone's ever wished to have anyone else croaked with the dragon balls. But people have definitely been resurrected. A lot.
Also, Oolong got a pair of panties with them.
It sure would speed up the plot if they just wished for Frieza to die
The dragon (at least Earth's dragon, Shenron) has been asked for feats that were too great for him to perform, though, and had to refuse the wish stating they were "beyond his power."
We don't know the limits of his power re: ass kicking. But it's probably unlikely that Shenron could delete Frieza. Possibly Porunga (Namek's dragon) could have. Who knows.
He might not be able to delete Frieza while Frieza was on Namek but if Freiza was on earth, he's in Shenrons playhouse.
No he couldn't kill King Piccolo because he cant kill those that are more powerful then his creator. Location doesn't matter. And i think Goku once refused to be wished back to earth because he was training somewhere in space, meaning shenron couldn't overpower him
I'm gonna have to do some rewatching on the king piccolo thing, but I always took that as Shenron just respecting goku's wishes, because they have known each other for a long time.
Good points though, great discussion lol
If it wasnt King Piccolo it was vegeta that they asked to be killed, still the same outcome in the end
Didn't King Piccolo kill Shenron?
Yes but Kami recreated the Dragon so thats when they tried to have hin kill King Piccolo
I think I remember the human chaff (Krilin, Yamcha) asking if Shenron could destroy Vegeta and Nappa's ships while they were still en route to Earth.
I also remember that, after beating up Cell, Krilin wanted 18 to become human, but that was "beyond" what Shenron could do.
Second wish was granted I think? That's why they have a kid, no?
No idea, I'd have to check a wiki or something
How does Marron exist then?
The English translation is wrong, Gero, 17 and 18 are cyborgs, not androids.
They're originally humans, who were turned into robots, while 16 and 19 were fully robotic androids (and use a different word in Japanese, I believe?)
So 18 must've had her babymaker intact, maybe that's where Gero put the bomb that Krillin wished away.