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I loved the visual and sound design of this movie, the ornithopter design was awesome I agree. I kinda wish they just made the movie like the newer mad max though. Cut everything but the action and cgi scenes and don’t really spend much time setting up plot, just let the weird specificity of the universe speak for itself. I dunno I am sorry if this comes off like a huge dig at the movie.
I agree that would be cool, but it wouldn't really be dune. Dune is more about the politics and how ecology shapes societies. The climactic battle in Messiah was kept mostly off screen for example.
Yeah I thought they cut too much of the political intrigue for the movie, I want the dinner scene and the secret garden room!
I don’t disagree that it wouldn’t be dune in terms of what I have heard the books are like, but I don’t think the newest movie really gets across any of that beyond a surface level of setting up who the villain is. I know the next movie is going to put a twist on stuff, but judging the last dune movie as a self contained experience it just doesn’t really do anything interesting on that front in my opinion. The world building, art direction and cgi are what capture the viewer I think, which isn’t to devalue the movie it’s just the magic of the movie has 0% to do with the in my opinion.
The first movie was the first part of the book, and the first part of the book was basically just world building and introducing characters (and a lot of characters thinking about things alone).
I think there was a lot to like about the movie, it was beautiful and hopefully brings back the 'weird' sci-fi aesthetics of the pre Star Wars era, but if you aren't familiar with the book, then just first movie it isn't going to be satisfying as a story.
Dig all you want, i just wanna say that I am in the completely opposite camp. Minimal action is my jam from Villeneuve. The more like Arrival the better. IMO he is a master at just setting up vibes and tension. I could probably watch three hours of desert landscape shots if directed by him.
I can almost assure you that the second half of the book and thus the second movie is gonna be a lot more of what you are looking for though.
You're allowed to dig on a movie. And, in my view, this movie is far from reproach