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Note: It's become clear to me that so far the vegan community on Lemmy (unlike Reddit) is lacking and overrun by non-vegans. So please only answer this if you're actually vegan. I'm seeking a vegan perspective on this.

With that out of the way, is it speciesist to have a favourite animal? Many vegans consider themselves dog ๐Ÿ• lovers or cat ๐Ÿˆ lovers ("ailurophiles") first and foremost, aside from animal lovers (who actually respect animals hence their veganism) in general. Others, like Joey Carbstrong, say that pigs ๐Ÿ– are their favourite animal and always have been even since before they went vegan; maybe some saw the movie "Babe" and developed an affection for them, for example. It's understandable. And others like cows ๐Ÿ„ or chicks ๐Ÿฅ or lambs ๐Ÿ‘ of course.

But as much as it might be a natural thing to gravitate to a certain species of animal, and "favouritise" them, is that still a form of speciesism? Of course if you're not actually exploiting the animals that aren't your favourite then it's only a mental matter. But is it still wrong even just to view them differentially and prefer or hold more love for some species than others? Loving an individual than another makes sense. But would you love one race of people more than other? Do you say "Greek people are my favourite race" (as a non-Greek person, for sake of example)? If not, and if that would be considered racist, then why is it not speciesist to prefer one species over others, even if just mentally?

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[โ€“] Grapetruth -2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I've already gotten 2 non-vegans trolling. Please respect the nature of this question and only answer if you're vegan and want to engage seriously.

[โ€“] aodhsishaj 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think you're the one trolling as the question shows you don't have a strong grasp of what species are, what racism is, and what constitutes speciest behavior.

If this post was made in good faith you might find these resources as a good place to start researching a solid platform to build your argument and logic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species

https://www.apa.org/topics/racism-bias-discrimination

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism

Humans regardless of social structure have an inherent bias when it comes to interacting with animals. I think that's where you're starting your thought. However you cannot have racism applied to speciesm. There's no structure for it in philosophy to compare the two. Preferring furry mammals over fish isn't speciest.

The idea of having pets can be speciest, but which animal species one chooses as a companion is not speciest.

That's why I thought you were some kind of furry troll.

[โ€“] Grapetruth 1 points 11 months ago

Saying racism isn't comparable to speciesism when the logic used is exactly the same is something non-vegans and anti-vegans often say as well

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