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Normally in big game rifles, one has the choice of either a double barrel or a bolt action (semi autos being generally eschewed as not reliable enough). After the surely unnerving experience of being charged by three elephants simultaneously, however, Hungarian hunter Joseph Szecsei decided he wanted both the immediate followup shot of the double barrel and the capacity of the bolt action all in a single rifle. So working with Fuchs Fine Guns in Austria, he created just that – a double barrel bolt action rifle.

The system uses six locking lugs on the rear end of the bolt to lock two bolts and chambers, and a dual magazine which holds three extra rounds for each barrel. The guns are made to order for the very high end of the market...

Ian's video: [8:56] https://youtu.be/iSEMz3iaSxo?si=

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[–] Nacktmull 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Maybe instead he should have stopped murdering endangered animals for fun, just saying ...

[–] FireTower 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To be fair to Szecsei that happened in 1981, and African elephants have only been endangered since 2021. Which is kind of surprising, I thought they'd been on the list for a while.

[–] GONADS125 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still a shame to kill such intelligent and sophisticated animals.. They have some form of language able to communicate safe areas/humans, have incredible memory, capacity for empathy, and even funeral rituals.

They're so much smarter than human children. I just don't see the appeal or justification to kill such beings outside of survival. I don't see that as any different than if a more advanced species came to Earth to destroy/exploit humanity. The gap between us and them would probably be greater than the gap between us and the elephants. Doesn't justify exploitation and killing.

I'll root for the elephants 99% of the time. Humans suck! I will say there's totally a difference between hunting animals like this (even aside from endangered status) and animals like deer, where hunting overall makes their population healthier, in that it reduces overpopulation and infectious disease.

[–] FireTower 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hopefully they can make a comeback like bald eagles did.

[–] GONADS125 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah I can't believe how much more common I see them now! Also rooting for bees haha. We've screwed them up and they're a keystone species.

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