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reb00ted | Meta/Threads Interoperating in the Fediverse Data Dialogue Meeting yesterday (reb00ted.org)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It's interesting how the people from Meta are away of the trust deficit they're bringing to the Fediverse while still not being prepared to answer questions like, “All the openness with Threads, namely integration with the Fediverse, supporting account migration out from Threads etc, is the opposite of what Facebook/Meta has done over its history. What has fundamentally changed so that you now believe openness is the better strategy?” And: “In the past Facebook was a far more open system than it is today, you gradually locked it down. What guarantee is there that your bosses won’t follow the same playbook this time, even if you think they won’t?”

I don't see threads.net being very influential in our forum-like slice of the Fediverse, seeing it is a Twitter-like competitor, but who's to say Reddit doesn't open up to federation in the future as a fresh and fun way to embrace and extinguish this little thorn in its side?

Additionally, the concept of shared blacklists and some centralized moderation database for instances to subscribe too is ridiculous to consider. Though I have no negative opinion on blacklists in general, and thing sharing them between friendly instances makes sense, petitioning for some kind of global moderation is fighting for the very things so many of us made our instances to avoid.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Very interesting read!

I don’t see threads.net being very influential in our forum-like slice of the Fediverse

The word you are looking for is "the threadiverse" and no, despite its name (ironic, I know), threads.net isn't really any competition. But this doesn't mean they can't set up ActivityPub scrapers and doing what Meta does best, that being: "The Zucc succ", that's why I'm very wary of them and would discourage any opening towards them until we see some very compelling evidence. It looks like most of the Fediverse shares this opinion of mine.

Additionally, the concept of shared blacklists and some centralized moderation database for instances to subscribe too is ridiculous to consider.

100%. Shared blacklist (or even "greylists") are a good and helpful thing, not everyone can afford to keep tabs on the entire Fediverse to control who they get in bed with, and moving to allowlists would be just sad and likely kill smaller players. On the topic, a great example of how an ActivityPub-wide shared blocklist would be the Fediseer, I'd love to see it get bigger adoption or even inclusion in the protocol itself.