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My source is I rode a bike for over a decade and several times had folks drifting into my lane that corrected when I revved my engine and they heard me because they couldn’t see me. Likewise when lane splitting when I rode in California where that was legal at the time I noticed that if I rolled up in neutral folks would try to merge in front of each other jockeying for the closest spot and nearly slam into me, but if I opened the throttle a bit as I cruised down they could hear me and wouldn’t merge right into me.
My evidence is anecdotal as I rode for years, but never published a peer reviewed research paper on the subject. Take it for what you will. The main argument in that link you posted is that it’s harder to hear the motorcycle in today’s modern cars as they block a lot of noise out. Sure seems like if you had really loud pipes they might hear you anyway, thus proving my point with their own argument. But that’s just basic logic.
So what you're saying is, even with your loud pipes, people didn't hear you even when they were almost on top of you, so you had to create more noise again? Sounds like your loud pipes did nothing, and you needed a decent horn.
I've been riding in the UK for about 15 years, and filtering is legal here. When you're in a car, you can't hear bikes until they're next to you or have just passed you, and that's including the ground shaking cruisers.
You intentionally ignored my point. I didn’t say I had overly loud pipes. I said folks were more likely to notice me when I gave it some revs while splitting/etc rather than just coasting. It’s easier to hear more noise than less noise, this is very basic. What’s also very basic is riding is a numbers game. Everything you do, you are tweeting to improve your odds of survival. So the upside of louder pipes is the possibility that more folks will hear you and notice you and possibly not run into you. That’s a big bonus. The downside is, well nothing as long as you pick ones that sound good to you. Yeah, some guy might have his windows up and his music blasting and not be able to hear you no matter how loud your pipes are. Ok? Who cares? I’m still improving my odds by getting a larger chunk of drivers to notice/hear me. Just because I can’t get 100% conversion doesn’t mean I super just give up entirely
The downside is you're annoying everyone you drive past every day. Get a damn horn, that's what they're invented for.