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weird (adj.)

c. 1400,

• "having power to control fate", from wierd (n.), from Old English wyrd "fate, chance, fortune; destiny; the Fates," literally "that which comes,"

• from Proto-Germanic wurthiz (cognates: Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt "fate," Old Norse urðr "fate, one of the three Norns"),

• from PIE wert- "to turn, to wind," (cognates: German werden, Old English weorðan "to become"),

• from root wer- (3) "to turn, bend" (see versus).

• For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," compare phrase turn into "become."

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[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So your true self is your ultimate self, but there's a limited somewhat false sense of self which is whatever roles you like to play and be limited in.

In my opinion this analogy is very instructive. Actually I employ this kind of analogy very often in the meta-contextualization of my experiences.

I would add that as is possible to fabricate a [sense of me] accompanying the chosen role to be played within the game, also is possible not to do so if you will. (Obs: I'm not evaluating one option to be superior just pointing the possibility)

What is your self, your ultimate self? The mind. The mind is the infinite potential for cognition taking on one form or another of cognition.

I would phrase it in that way:

Mind is a Threefold Capacity (Being/Will/Intellect) and Mind as such, have infinite potential of creation(cognition).

(I think that in nefandic nomenclature it would be: To experience, To know, To will, but I'm not sure right now. xd).

Regarding Self, I could say that my position is: Mind is a Capacity, I'm the Agent which exercise this Capacity.

However the plot twist to me is:

Of course I have freedom to conceptualize in one way (I'm Mind) or another (I'm transcendent in relation to Mind) and the chosen one would appear true to me, but what the acceptance of each one would entail?

I can see that one possible downfall of my position is that one could begin to fabricate dreams in the form of stressful journeys searching for "realization of my True Self" which would be futile.

Originally commented by u/Veneficvs on 2017-07-08 06:08:36 (djx25fm)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago

Threefold Capacity (Being/Will/Intellect)

I explain it as knowing/willing/experiencing. This "being/will/intellect" thing is not anything I talk about. Threefold capacity is my term for the mind. Please don't get mixed up.

To me "being/will/intellect" doesn't make any sense. I would never talk like that.

Regarding Self, I could say that my position is: Mind is a Capacity, I'm the Agent which exercise this Capacity.

It's you who knows, who wills and who experiences. Without you knowing, there is no mind that knows. Without you willing, there is no mind that wills. Without you experiencing there is no mind that experiences.

SI is an extremely personal, 1st person perspectival way of comprehending experience. Even if you have an experience of operating in 10 different bodies, it's still 1 experience and not 10 different ones. There is always one root will, and it's always yours, from your perspective.

You are not something other than mind in the way I explain things.

The important thing here is to realize that mind is not the same thing as a mindset. A mindset is a specific way to configure mind. You use this or that mindset here and there, but you do ultimately transcend any and all mindsets in the sense that you're never limited to the mindset you currently find yourself in.

Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2017-07-08 08:10:56 (djx8n2r)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago

One more thing, from the POV of SI, you're not a human either. You are instead humaning. You are humaning now, but aren't a human. I say this because when I address you, the "you" that I address is deeper than what is generally conventionally understood. I'm not talking to your body or to the personality that's associated with the body, when I talk to you here.

I like to use simple language when speaking because if I use words like "Self" people tend to think that there is something on top of their head toward which they need to look up to find themselves, or something like that. I don't want to create that impression. I want to convey how intimate and private it all is and I don't want to induce people to look on top of their heads or in the clouds or below the ground. And I also feel like if we make our conceptions too grand people are also mislead, because they then discount their personal experience as insignificant in light of this "something grand." I don't want anyone to think that their experience and knowing and willing are insignificant. On the contrary, the idea is to empower.

Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2017-07-08 08:17:29 (djx8yly)