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weird (adj.)

c. 1400,

• "having power to control fate", from wierd (n.), from Old English wyrd "fate, chance, fortune; destiny; the Fates," literally "that which comes,"

• from Proto-Germanic wurthiz (cognates: Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt "fate," Old Norse urðr "fate, one of the three Norns"),

• from PIE wert- "to turn, to wind," (cognates: German werden, Old English weorðan "to become"),

• from root wer- (3) "to turn, bend" (see versus).

• For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," compare phrase turn into "become."

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First off, for purposes of grokking this, I request you take the perspective, even if only for a moment, that everything in your human dream is 180 degrees off, a little like a reflection in a mirror. Allow for that possibility while you read the following.

When you appear to have been born into humanness, you died to your True Nature, to Truth. You were birthed into this human dream but it was actually a death from the perspective of Truth.

When you appear to die in the human dream, what is really happening is you are being born back into your True nature, Truth. When you are born you die and when you die you are born.

Imagine a night dream... the characters appear within a dream, they are birthed. Later that dream ends and the characters disappear (die). Where did they go? Nowhere, because there never existed. Yes, they appeared to have a variety of experiences within that night dream which might indicate they were 'real' characters.. seeing, hearing, feeling various experiences, but they were not 'real'. From their dream perspective they felt real, but upon awakening the dreaming human realizes they were just illusory.

In a lucid dream, which you have probably experienced, you wake up to your true nature as that of the human character having the night dream. You awaken inside the dream to the reality that the character in the night dream is the creation of a human. Said human is outside the dream. Where does the night dream character go? Nowhere, because he/she wasn't 'real' to start with. You might say he/she died and was absorbed back in the dreaming human. As above, so below.

Contemplate this, you are already dead. You couldn't be deader and some day you will die to this human dream and will become alive to your True Nature. Truth is the dreamer and, in your human format you are a dreamed character.

You might ask why your human character seems so real and believable. Your night dreams appear real while they are happening. If your dream of humanness did not appear real, with the validation of the senses and human drama, you would not stick around for the entertainment.

Could all this human dream be solely for entertainment? You can make up any reason you want for this human dream, I find entertainment works for me.

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[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could say nothing happened and everything happened already ;)

I agree. You could say everything that has ever happened, is happening, and will happen is right here. Although it's just semantics at this point but the general idea is the same.

Whatever it is i believe the awareness will eventually reach a good reset point where, it might say something like. Ok fuck that? absurd experience not doing that again.

Awareness isn't a thing that does anything. It's more like a property of experience. There isn't any inherent meaning to awareness, it does not have a plan or a goal, because it is literally that which experiences. Awareness can't even look at itself, in the same way the property of eyesight can't view itself. The closest thing you can get to actually experiencing awareness is seeing reflections of yourself, as awareness.

Awareness is always aware so if it is aware of itself, it means it must somehow be aware of a reflection or an illusion or even a concept of itself. So in reality, you are always "true nature", meaning you are always "awareness" but to become self realized is to basically look at yourself in the mirror, as awareness.

I mean why else would I sign up for this shit? Whatever happens, it's clear that we can never die. So even an infinite illusion sounds good to me, We get to be an amazing godly god eventually ;)

I guess this is up to personal interpretation. I don't know why I'm here, I don't really care either because the answer can literally be anything, there is no right or wrong, there is only a perspective. So for me, the best perspective might be to say I am deliberately here for some unknown reason. Or I can say it was purely random processes that lead to this life.

Originally commented by u/Green-Moon on 2017-11-06 00:47:40 (dpdka4w)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Awareness isn't a thing that does anything. It's more like a property of experience. There isn't any inherent meaning to awareness, it does not have a plan or a goal, because it is literally that which experiences. Awareness can't even look at itself, in the same way the property of eyesight can't view itself. The closest thing you can get to actually experiencing awareness is seeing reflections of yourself, as awareness.

An eye can't look at an eye, an ear can't hear an ear, skin can't feel itself, only sensations presented to it. Keep in mind, I am speaking about the level of this dream, not Truth. Truth does not perceive anything, but contains all perception.

So, it's not unreasonable to ask how awareness could be aware of itself. In your own experience there is a sense that you are aware of things your senses present to you, correct? If you will look closely, it's obvious (within this dream of humanness) that you are aware you have awareness. This is awareness of awareness. It's very simple. Awareness can be aware of awareness and even aware that it is aware that it is aware.. of itself.

Taking this a step further, as you look out upon the dream we call this world, awareness (BTW, it's not ''your'' awareness, it's the same in every human) is filled up with a variety of objects, more accurately they are hallucinations. They distract from a most amazing thing, the apparency that you are aware. What fills the senses is taken to be the important facet when it is insignificant compared to the illusion that you are aware, and further, that you appear to be aware you are aware.

What is purpose of all my noise, well.. I suggest you focus on the fact that you do appear to be aware and are aware of that appearance. If you can focus enough on it you may well get to the truth of that illusion. There is no such thing as awareness, there is no one or thing that could ever be aware and yet, awareness does appear.. all within a dream and nothing more. The way out is through. Seems like I can't really think myself out, that doesn't work.

I just guessed since it's infinite why can't it give itself a property of a stop reset temporarily or what not? Although I'm aware it's still out of time so, I guess no dimension or property can touch it. Still a food for thought, maybe create a smaller circle where it's possible for it to try a few temp reset points while using other experiences? I can't really communicate it in language. I'm not sure how to explain what i'm trying to say, it's very misleading. I'm sorry.

Edit trying again:

nothing/Infinite void

  • something-

-something-

-something-

-let's keep going here add lots of fillers and constants-

multi-verse

universe

Let's say one of the something's there can be that what i want some sort of reset thing awareness?

Originally commented by u/therewasguy on 2017-11-06 01:08:20 (dpdl0qv)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago

The way out is through. Seems like I can't really think myself out, that doesn't work.

Yeah you can't think your way out of the dream, because thinking is just more content that arises within the dream. Thinking is still an important part in the process of awakening. We need knowledge in order to make sense of our experience, but intellectual knowledge is really just the first step in awakening. After we have sufficient intellectual knowledge we can put that knowledge to practical use (e.g meditation, self enquiry, etc) in order to see the dream for what it really is.

I just guessed since it's infinite why can't it give itself a property of a stop reset temporarily or what not?

Awareness doesn't have the ability to set up resets or stop points. Everything is illusion, even the concept of somehow "becoming one with awareness" is still an illusion. It's all illusion, you can never escape it. There is the property of being aware and then there is the content that arises within awareness, because to be aware inherently means that there is something to be aware of. You cannot be aware and have nothing to be aware of because it's a contradiction.

So the only thing that can set up reset points is an illusory self. Presumably an illusory self with omnipotent powers. Even adopting the position "I am awareness" is illusory. You are always awareness, whether you're a human or something else.

So to get the ability to set reset points I'd say it's like this:

~ Property of being aware

  • Awareness of being aware

  • Awareness of being an omnipotent being (sets reset points)

    • Awareness of being a person

    • death of person

  • awareness of being an omnipotent being (sets reset points)

  • awareness of being aware

Originally commented by u/Green-Moon on 2017-11-07 00:57:34 (dpfa6jk)