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weird (adj.)

c. 1400,

• "having power to control fate", from wierd (n.), from Old English wyrd "fate, chance, fortune; destiny; the Fates," literally "that which comes,"

• from Proto-Germanic wurthiz (cognates: Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt "fate," Old Norse urðr "fate, one of the three Norns"),

• from PIE wert- "to turn, to wind," (cognates: German werden, Old English weorðan "to become"),

• from root wer- (3) "to turn, bend" (see versus).

• For sense development from "turning" to "becoming," compare phrase turn into "become."

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/u/mindseal and I recently began discussing intention and manifestation and the "mechanism" behind it. We've moved our conversation to this thread so that others can hopefully share their thoughts and experiences.

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[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't neglect the manifestational momentum. Sometimes I actually want some patterns to gain momentum because I don't plan on micro-adjusting them every hour, so I want them to stay steady as a kind of "background." But sometimes some of the steady features get outdated and need to be refreshed, and at that time their steadiness gets in the way of tuning them, so sometimes I have to downregulate some types of momentum to make some patterns more susceptible to quick tuning.

I take this as a sort of elaboration on your post regarding the context and content of experience. Such that, as the ultimate builder of the stage not only are you reserving the right to what content appears on your stage, but also the right to further refine your stage in general. I feel that this could be a subtlety missed in the initial post. I feel it also heavily relates to your post about maintaining the mindset of a deity in that if something no longer serves you: cut it off.

I don't believe that we are humans ultimately. Ultimately I am beyond species.

I agree with this. When one cultivates a mentality that is beyond that of "I am this human here and this experience is happening to me." the context of experience broadens to an unimaginable degree from the perspective just outlined. "Well if I am not only a human, to what extent am I?" This doesn't eliminate the human you may have imagined yourself to be from the experience, quite the contrary. It flips perspective to I am the experience happening to this human. Even that can be seen as a limited perspective because you can continue expanding from there to "I am the experience happening to all humans" all the way out to "I am."

What's beyond the "I am" experience can be described as "I become" and at that point "I" can become limitless. Then again that seems a bit of a stretch. Almost like wiping the slate clean. As you've mentioned:

so sometimes I have to downregulate some types of momentum to make some patterns more susceptible to quick tuning.

This quick tuning can be more desirable than starting from scratch. So in terms of context versus content this was hard to see exactly how to move one to the other. But with the idea of momentum it's much easier to adjust things because they aren't being expressed as one or the other, rather they are expressed as varying degrees of the same thing.

Originally commented by u/Scew on 2019-07-18 00:14:31 (eu1q9gu)

[–] syncretik 1 points 1 year ago

When one cultivates a mentality that is beyond that of "I am this human here and this experience is happening to me." the context of experience broadens to an unimaginable degree from the perspective just outlined.

Very much so.

"Well if I am not only a human, to what extent am I?" This doesn't eliminate the human you may have imagined yourself to be from the experience, quite the contrary. It flips perspective to I am the experience happening to this human. Even that can be seen as a limited perspective because you can continue expanding from there to "I am the experience happening to all humans" all the way out to "I am."

I do not identify with any experience, but I take responsibility for all my experience.

So I don't ID with it, but I AM responsible for it.

That's the key to freedom. I see many people attempt to cut off their identification as a way to remove themselves from responsibility, which is the opposite of what I am doing.

I detach my identify from the limited notions of myself so that I can expand my responsibility, not lower it. I am responsible for all of my experience and I am ultimately not limited in ways that a human would be limited by humanity/biology and whatever "human" things are ascribed to the humans. But of course there is the momentum inherent in having been humaning for so long too.

This quick tuning can be more desirable than starting from scratch

I agree. "Starting from scratch" would be a huge mental blow I think. I mean you have to start without the universe and separate light from dark and go through all the primitive steps, which is kind of pointless. I do want some kind of a universe, some stage, and it's easier to fix than to remake from scratch.

But with the idea of momentum it's much easier to adjust things because they aren't being expressed as one or the other, rather they are expressed as varying degrees of the same thing.

Yea, that's because in subjective idealism we hang onto our own meaning construction. Normally the person would imagine the meanings coming in from the outside. So a tree is already a tree by itself, through its own agency, and it just impresses its shape upon your sight and you're helpless but to recognize it only as a tree that is a tree that is a tree, etc. This is what it means to take appearances as informative. But over here we take appearances as suggestive rather than informative.

Originally commented by u/mindseal on 2019-07-18 04:28:36 (eu2e3r2)