So, before I get started, I just want to firmly lay out my own personal support for Ukraine. I've been banned from lemmy.ml communities before just for saying Slava Ukraini. I do my utmost to assist the Ukrainian cause, from cheering their victories to talking to other Americans about the importance of the war there. I've picked my side, on purpose, and I'm at peace with it.
That said, I can't help but notice a slow shift in the tone of Russo-Ukrainian War information spaces that severely disturbs me.
The liberal west is based around a set of values. Freedom, mainly, that's the "liberty" at the heart of "liberal". Unless it's hurting someone else, everyone should, as much as we can manage, be free to do as they wish. This leads us to do things in a certain way, and it's "that way" that we use to look for and identify our friends.
Many people over the decades have tried to drag us down, paint us out to be just as bad as everyone else. While we certainly make mistakes, I think you have to look no further than our domestic strife and what each side is fighting for, to see that this love of freedom and life is still strong. Free speech, very important. Freedom to be gay, also very important. Liberty, freedom. Do as you wish, and leave other people that same freedom.
So, what I've been seeing that disturbs me so, is a slow shift in the tone of pro-Ukrainian voices towards a greater hopelessness and despair. A larger amount of censorship and banning here on Lemmy, but also in other places. A greater emphasis on the fear and violence of war, which is replacing and supplanting the admirable courage and hope that was so powerful in the initial days of the war.
I hate to say this, but it's starting to look from an outside perspective that ... maybe we were wrong, maybe the Ukrainians are not actually all that different from the Russians.
I personally refuse to believe this. I think the trials and horrors of war are simply wearing them down, and that's why I'm making this post.
I hope everyone remembers, we live in a hard reality, combating not just Russian influence, but our own domestic problems trying to turn us into another Russia. We cannot allow this to happen, and the first line of defense against it is found in our own courage, our own heart.
I would remind everyone that the most effective weapon the Russians have is their information warfare, that splits us from our countrymen and allies in good old fashioned divide-and-conquer. They can pretend to be us, they are smart enough to do this, and they can cleverly wreck our morale from within. We must fight this. What fights it is courage and freedom, two things that build morale in others, instead of tearing it down.
To quote a famous American: "Give me Liberty, or give me Death." Those are the options Patrick Henry considered. "Just do what it takes to survive." is not listed. This is the American heart, so strong it even gets turned against us in the form of domestic, American terrorism--Americans killing Americans. It's not perfect and it's not pretty. And, if anyone wants to join us from authoritarian control, they'll find that blood and suffering is involved to get to it, and does not disappear once you arrive. The rewards, though, of having a non-totalitarian ruler, are worth it.
Keep the faith my friends, long, gruelling wars with setbacks can still be won. We can someday see peace and freedom, it is possible. Just not for all Ukrainians. This is actual hard reality, accepting the unfairness of the world, and dying for it anyway.
Personally, I was losing hope myself, about 2 years ago. One single man actually turned that around for me. Zelensky, and his courage, and the powerful Ukrainian heart he seemed to awaken. Don't let the Russians drag his name through the mud, he doesn't deserve it. Don't let other Ukrainians act like orcs, they can do better. We must not be like the Russians, otherwise we deserve no better than the lives they get.
Slava Ukraini.
People in grassroots don't represent Ukraine. Some of them might say something stupid, some of them might be russians spreading misinformation. This shouldn't lead you to thinking "Ukrainians might not be that different from russians".
I am offended by your comparison of Ukrainians to russians. I'm sure if you were a Pole during WWII you wouldn't like being compared to nazis either. You have attacked Ukraine by your accusations of bloodlust, threats and willingness to employ fear. Ukraine can't fix what random people are saying on the internet. I'm not fighting against you, I'm fighting against your wording, because it does seem like you are accusing Ukraine.
Most of us are extremely thankful to everything US is doing. Yes, we're also worried and paying attention to everything that happens in the US politics too.
There is an ongoing conscription/mobilisation, but it is insufficient as far as I know. I don't expect you to know about every problem that we currently have. I'm following the war very closely, and spend hours every day watching/reading/listening about everything that's going on. Lately a lot of military people talk about the lack of personnel in the interviews and on podcasts.
I agree that we shouldn't fight since we are on the same side, but we shouldn't accuse each other of something that we haven't done either. Ukrainian internet is full of russians/pro-ru trying to sow dissent, and we're living with that for past 10 years. I don't really know if there is a good way to fight against it. Currently it's important to learn how to recognize it.
I do understand that I could have worded that in a better way, I apologize for my sloppiness and the offense it caused.
For the record, it is because Ukraine and Russia are different that I support Ukraine. I am merely afraid myself, of that changing under the bloody horror of war. Bloody horror is what made Russians into Russians in the first place, and it could even happen to us Americans.