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Not OP but gonna explain a bit about it nonetheless:
Other than the US use (generally meaning anarcho-capitalist, selfishly ignorant or both), libertarian is just the opposite pole of the "how much do we let people control us" axis from authoritarian.
So basically a left-libertarian (which is a big spectrum of different political philosophies) is broadly speaking someone who doesn't believe in inherent authority but DOES believe in rules and various degrees of enforcement to defend the powerless from the powerful.
I guess you could say that, in the sense that the government (if any. See below)would be much more of a helper and a support for regular people who aren't rich and powerful than a ruler and an enforcer working for those that are.
Paid for and maintained by the people in general, specifics vary wildly across the hundreds of millions of left-libertarians worldwide. Personally, I believe that financing and administrating such thing is quintessential supportive government stuff. An anarchist would disagree with me, opposing all government or at least all except very local government.
Yeah, right-libertarianism is basically "survival of the already most privileged" dressed up (with varying degrees of success) in misleading rhetoric about self-determination..
Ideally, all organisations would be co-ops and the government would be an administrative non-profit co-op of sorts run by and for those of the people with the most aptitude and uncorrupt interest in doing such work.
That's just my personal take, though, there's hundreds if not thousands of left-libertarian ideologies and I don't agree with all of the specifics of any one of them..
Good explanation!
Thanks! 🙂
Isn't that left liberal? Libertarian is liberal right on that compass.
Right goes to laissez Faire markets and liberal is the opposite dimension of authoritarian.
One shame less in your life: you are not reading Ayn Rand.
No. Liberalism is a center-right to right wing ideology that's inherently capitalistic and permissive towards business. If Rupert Murdoch was still in Australia, he'd be supporting the Liberal Party.
Only the ahistorical and deliberately misleading US definition.
Rupert Murdoch (through his media companies) still very much does support the Liberal party.
Good point. I meant he'd be supporting ONLY the Liberal Party but might as well be accurate 😁
I'm not in the US, no, but am intimately familiar with most of the terms, themes and national level events as I've been following and debating thoroughly for half my so far 40 years lol, so you don't have to worry about me not getting it 🙂
Ah ok, sorry about that. I get a lot of people assuming that, so I was the one making an ass out of you and me this time 😁
As for the rest, I think I'm just going to leave it be since I've described the broad strokes pretty accurately already and it's semi-late here so I'm gonna go catch some Zs if I can. Sleep tight yourself when you get that far!
You're very welcome and I'm very happy if you do!
Unless you understand better that you love Ayn Rand now, of course 😛😆
That town would be built and maintained by literal slaves.. Slaves that they would probably feed to said bears if they complained.
They aren't confusing the terms. It's just that "libertarians" in the US are largely viewed as right-wing anti-authority, whereas on the global stage, they're kindof like normal anarchist-lite. If you say, "well that's not very specific", then yes that's correct.
They still aren't confusing the terms. They made it very clear where they were coming from and now it's been clarified further.
Do not demand that the discussion be as ignorant as you were at the start of it. That's pathetic.
No that's incorrect. The are right wing as in market liberal but also anti-authorian.
I get the impression that people write different things on their compass but mean the same thing.
Libertarian in the US party sense is "Libertarian-Right" whereas Conservatives in America are "Authoritarian-Right."
Authoritarian-Left and Libertarian-Left essentially share a party in the US with varying degrees of "it's not left enough" based on their personal feelings toward capitalism/socialism and how much social control the government should apply to make people conform.
Essentially, do you want a nanny state that requires everyone to tow whatever party line and makes all business grossly inefficient as well as corrupt? Or just a government that primarily serves the working class instead of having their hands tied by the owner class through bribes, superPACs, and lobbying in general?