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It’s been a months since 1.0.7 and the app still has bugs that need to be fixed. I’m hesitant to pay for the next month of pro without any progress. Meanwhile Voyager gets multiple updates per week…

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think the dev would find that the community would go out of their way to reward honest hard work if he showed some integrity. Case in point: Look at the devs from Voyager. Their users adore them and willingly donate money to support them. Their app is free and open source but I don’t prefer it because it’s react native instead of an actual native app.

[–] eatstorming 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry guys, I think it might be my fault. 😂

A month ago I replied to the dev with a wall of text on how I felt like Avelon showed great promises but paying for something based on what it sounds like it'll be in the future is a bad idea. I still think my position regarding this is right.

However, a few days after that, I decided to just do it with the lifetime purchase and hope for the best. Turned out that around that time Memmy's devs revamped that app and haven't added the number one feature on my list (bottom bar swipes navigation) and others are still planned to return. Avelon also went on a hiatus (I think it's related to the rebalancing of pro features). Most other Lemmy apps are in different stages of having some stuff I like, but lacking most features I want.

Hopefully we'll see updates again soon. I'm not going to try getting a refund or anything, but if this flops, I'm most likely gonna give up on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s sad that people can be so sensitive.

But you really shouldn’t abandon Lemmy entirely over an app..especially when there are a few competing apps that are just as good.

Did Memmy start using swift natively? If so, I’d give them a chance but they were pretty sensitive as well when I pointed out that their choice of React Native was suboptimal since it is, after all, an iOS only app.

[–] eatstorming 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I think Memmy had a revamp but I'm not sure of the details. I think it's still React, but the devs mentioned "learning some tricks and how to avoid some mistakes".

I don't think I'm being sensitive though. First, I really don't think a decision to quit Lemmy would happen soon. Second, even though there are several apps for it under development, as I said, they're all at different stages of maturity and none of them cover all the bases I expect to use in the long term. I honestly hate having to reach around the screen to navigate, which is my biggest problem with all of them now that Memmy lost its gestures navigation. Then there are smaller stuff like Avelon not re-blurring NSFW after you tap on it. Or the crashes. Or the opening Lemmy links in a browser view instead of a regular view in the app. Some of these issues are shared between all of the 7 apps I have for Lemmy on my phone.

I'm going to give it time, I understand very well how most of these apps are side projects. My main concern is that either these apps eventually get abandoned, or they go paid/partly paid like Avelon, while still not providing me with the experience I expect to get. I don't have the inclination to relive the awful experience Reddit forced us through for years with a different name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Oh I actually didn’t mean that you were being sensitive. I was referring to devs.

Thanks for providing some clarification. Lemmios is swift native, had a few killer features that I didn’t see elsewhere and it was entirely open source…though that one was a side project that seems to fall by the wayside during semester (the dev is a student).

I’d love for someone to make an ENTIRELY OPEN SOURCE, FREE/VOLUNTARY DONATION FUNDED, SWIFT NATIVE IOS LEMMY APP…kind of like Voyager but Swift Native. I’d be happy to fund the development of an app if that funding went back toward helping the rest of the fediverse and was 100% voluntary. IMO, why should I pay a dev working on a fediverse app if they aren’t open source? If I’m paying for a closed source app, I’m paying the dev to create a warchest of proprietary IP and to obfuscate useful code that could help the rest of the community.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Mlem is open-source and Swift based. Not my fav Lemmy app so far, but it seems to cover your criteria.

[–] eatstorming 3 points 11 months ago

Ahh, got it. Yeah I guess it can take a toll when people go too toxic, but on the other hand there are people who get their buttons pressed too easily.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

[email protected] is open source, donation funded and native Swift.

[email protected] is also native Swift.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I have both of these. Arctic is really good.