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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/652870

Using Beehaw's /c/gaming community as an example: Can someone please explain why I am still able to view this community and even see new posts? I also saw a few posts from beehaw users themselves in the last day. According to the explanation from the admins, I should be able to see posts in /c/gaming ONLY from other lemmy.world users, however that does not appear to be the case. I am seeing content from other instances, including beehaw. Can someone explain?

I read the explanation for defederation like 20 times and I still don't understand. It is incredibly confusing so if someone could explain this properly, that would be great. Thanks!

The thing I’m confused about is whether or not we should be seeing posts from anyone on /c/gaming @beehaw.org (as an example) that’s not from lemmy.world. Does that make sense? According to the admin’s post here, we shouldn’t, however I am still seeing a few posts that look new. Is this due to the caching issues? Because I’m definitely not seeing ALL of the new posts, just a handful. This is what i cannot seem to get a straight answer on. The below says no, however I definitely am 100% seeing posts from non-lemmy.world users on /c/[email protected]

https://lemmy.world/post/149743

“This won’t ever stop. You’ll notice that all posts after defederation are only from lemmy.world users. You won’t see posts/comments from ANY other instance (including instances that ) on beehaw.org communities. Those communities will quickly suck for us, as we’re only talking to other lemmy.world users. Your posts/comments are not being sent to any other lemmy. I highly recommend just unsubscribing from those communities, since they’re pretty pointless for us to be in right now.”

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[–] FeelzGoodMan420 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the whole defederation thing is extremely unclear snd confusing. I think better documentation needs to be made to clearly show what we will and will not see when defederated by another instance. I don't think it's clear at all. I've asked this question like 10 times and received 10 different answers

[–] WeirdGoesPro 2 points 2 years ago

That is exactly the sort of thing they are currently working on, but Lemmy has grown by 1600% in the last month alone, so explanations are taking a back seat to improvements at the moment. This was addressed directly in a stickied post on Lemmy.ml a few weeks ago—they simply don’t have enough manpower to be focusing on upgrades full time while also trying to answer every question in the threads, so they’re focusing on stability and upgrades for now, and intend to have much better informational resources after the dust settles.

We would all benefit from being patient. There are only 2 primary devs on the Lemmy team, and we would be in bad shape if we burn them out with high expectations.