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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

lmao
How dare they announce their deliveries in advance!

[–] nevemsenki 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah well, advance announcements don't actually help in the war do they now? They're only PR until they're delivered.

Talking of which, the EU so far has failed to ramp up it's artillery shell production properly, probbaly not hitting even half of the promised 1million shells to Ukraine by next march. So I'll stay let's focus on delivered things instead of promises.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Of course they're PR, because everyone and their mother was crying about the lack of transparency behind deliveries to Ukraine. And please, you act like Germany doesn't deliver what they announce when in fact they're the largest contributor for Ukraine, right after the US, and has one of the highest transparency standards on the matter. I can't speak for other countries but Germany has definitely ramped up their artillery production, as well as other types of ammunition. They even helped with the renewed production of 120mm shells for the old Soviet gear. Generally, the EU contributions are also about twice as much as that of the US.

[–] ZaroniPepperoni 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The us completely outstrips the EU and all member states individual contributions militarily. The EU only beats the us if you consider only monetary contributions (which are then mostly used to purchase lend lease equipment at a discount from, again, the us.) Or have strings attached so they can't be used directly in the conflict. That's not to say the eu contributions are small, but it's not anywhere close to being twice, even if you include monetary donations that don't directly help the war effort until it is converted to military spending.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol, yes, because the US is a big ass country with a big ass GDP, comparable to the whole of the EU, since it is a federated state. If you measure it by GDP then the US completely falls flat.

[–] ZaroniPepperoni 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Actually if you measure by gdp then the us makes the top 10 along with a bunch of smaller eastern European countries, but all of the major European countries like Germany, France, or Spain don't even make the list.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh, cool. Some random picture without source or date. I'm sorry, but it does not.
The US is on the 30th place with 0.3%, between Ireland and Canada, long after France or Spain. Germany sits at 12th place with 0.9%. You can find the rest of the frequently updated graphs here. I'll tag and report you for disinformation now.

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