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Maybe aliens don't want peace and understanding on Earth (lemmy.ca)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/showerthoughts
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This is a thought experiment that came up just now

Historically, global powers have meddled with the internal affairs of smaller countries and regions, hurting their chances for peace and stability. Sometimes it was for profit, sometimes it was to maintain or shift the balance of power in their favour.

What if that applies even further out, and part of the reason why we can't work towards something collectively is because it threatens those same incentives above? Alternatively, if it hasn't happened yet, it could still be something to keep in mind as a future possibility.

Now before they realize we're onto them and decide to pay us a visit:

  1. If the reason for the meddling is that a united humanity could pose a threat, it doesn't have to. As smaller regions on earth achieved peace and understanding, they could then start working on that with larger regions. So progress doesn't have to end with a united humanity.
  2. Please don't.
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[โ€“] foyrkopp 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Alien intelligence is not required to follow human reasoning.

The Lords of Alpha Centauri could run a long-term social engineering program on Earth because they believe capitalism, conflict and social darwinism are objectively Good for You and we need to be purged of the folly of humanistic ideology before we can be allowed to join the galactic ~~civilization~~ market.

Or because they find our struggles entertaining.

What I can tell you is that no rational spacefaring civilization would need to resort to social engineering if they just want to kill us. Just toss a bit (or a lot) of spare delta v on a sufficiently large asteroid (or five) and humanity goes the way of the dinosaur.

(Different story if they want us dead, but want to make it look like suicide because of the space police.)

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Has anyone seen Finland lately?