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[–] AllonzeeLV 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I take pity on Japan as the only nation on Earth to fully internalize grind culture as their source of existential meaning to an even more toxic degree than the United States.

If they didn't exist, I probably would deem such a thing unsustainably improbable, but there it is.

To be clear, I'm not referring to places where the poor are exploited to work even longer hours at more physically brutal jobs for basic survival, I'm talking about self proclaimed "developed" nations whose citizens are indoctrinated to proudly jump into the productivity volcano as some kind of honor/life's purpose/sense of identity in itself, and who wouldn't have it any other way.

[–] Zehzin 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

South Korea is more the first case than the second, no?

[–] AllonzeeLV 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Completely fair.

That said, when there was a proposal to increase standard work hours in South Korea recently, the people rejected it loudly. There is a desire in SK by many to achieve work life balance, which would be something of a slur in Japan.

Everything I've ever seen of Japanese culture would indicate so much as speaking against something like that would get you ostracized by the vast majority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not from the original "developed" nations but imo occupation is a pretty big factor in one's identity.