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[–] Cinner 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The market = 13yo - 30yo (leaning heavily to the 13-20 age group).

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm 39 and started vaping with disposable vapes. Vastly better than smoking (which I did before switching)

[–] Cinner 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Are you talking about juul/blu/those kinds that you buy the pods for? Or are you talking about puff bars etc where the entire thing including battery is one unit and you toss it after 1000 hits or whatever like these https://i1.wp.com/aksmokeworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/puff-flow-01.jpg?w=1000&ssl=1

because blu/Juul/etc suck but disposables cost 3x as much and are so much worse for the environment. Disposable batteries are a level above the detriment to the planet of disposable plastic.

The single use 1-unit disposables are what are so popular with the teenage crowd, according to my high schooler.

It's so much more cost effective to spend $20-40 on a good pod mod and buy premium juice online to refill your pod. better for the ocean and 3rd world countries too, all you're throwing away is the 30ml plastic nicotine bottle once every few weeks.

[–] SCB 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The single-purchase disposables are what I'm talking about and would like to encourage better market alternatives for.

Cost-efficiency just isn't a winning argument here for a whole bunch of consumers. Convenience is. I don't necessarily like that, but it's true, and you can't fight preferences

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Juul knocked it out of the park so well it almost became a household name. Then Altria group bought a big part of them and lobbied to kill off all the flavors. It's a shame, they did it right, e-waste wise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Indeed, the problem seems to be how much easier it is to use the disposables in comparison, I don't get it because adding juice to my tank takes like 30 seconds and I'm good to go, but there's also the coil replacement aspect, it's probably mostly laziness honestly.

[–] SCB 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think there's an intimidation factor too. "Coil replacement" would definitely have weirded me out a few years ago.

Laziness is definitely a huge factor tho