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how can anyone so completely miss the point?
i mean, i get his point. but most of these smart devices need an internet connection for any of their smart stuff to work. so long as you don't give it your wifi pass, or wire it in, it's just going to be a dumb device.
i have a newer LG TV i use with my PC. it's just wired to my PC. at some point i connected it to internet to see how the IP Channel stuff worked on it. it would let me watch stuff for about 10 minutes before it prompted to download an app. that shit got disconnected quick. never again.
all this 'smart' stuff needs to be granted access to your network to serve ads and recommend apps. don't connect it.
I had a Sony TV that was an early 4K device. It got an update that allowed it to be 4K/60FPS compatible. So updating them isn’t all bad.
My LG OLED got an update for Dolby Vision I believe.
It won't break out of the blue, don't use the features and if it works out of the box it will continue working without updates and worst case if something is problematic you plug it, update and unplug it.
TVs aren't mechanical devices like a washer where they switched metal parts to plastic to save a couple of dollars here and there.
Heck, you can even just buy a PC monitor or a projector if you're just against smart stuff!
First of all, you're still paying for all those features you don't need, that's bad.
Second, these "smart" features almost always slow down the devices, so even simple tasks get sluggish.
Finally, electronics absolutely do break, and the more of it you're having, the likelier it is for something to break. Memory and CPUs can overheat, capacitor can (and do) leak, especially in very thin TVs that's a common problem, and solder joints can break.
You don't pay for those features, you pay less than the device would sell for without them because it's a trade-off, sell for less but profit off features, that's why the cheaper models have more bloat.
If these features wouldn't be implemented in the first place, they would be even cheaper.
In the last about 5 years there was no innovation whatsoever in the TV market. Yet, there's more and more bloat, more "smart" shit nobody needs and higher prices.
No. They would not. The bloat that comes with any new tech device is there specifically because it gives the company selling it more money. Windows is really easy to install with no bloat, but practically every laptop manufacturer installs a bunch of junk like mcaffee on it. They sure as hell don't do that because they tibk it'll actually help the laptop work better.
No innovation? TVs have better picture quality every year and you pretend nothing's changed in the last 5 years? 🤔
Where? 4k has been around for longer, OLED, HDR too.
QLED, QNED, MicroLED, 8k TVs, 120hz or more for gaming on big screens (and VRR), better HDR...
And you think that is the tech an average TV buyer wants?
It clearly is because people are buying them, not 65" 1080p TVs!
Can you buy them?
Because this is exactly the point of this entire post. There are no "simple" TVs that offer proper value propositions. You can't simple TVs in that size range from a reputable source. You may find one from one of those allcaps Amazon brands, but that's it.
Digital signage or big format computer monitors or projectors.