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[–] kescusay 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hamas isn't Palestine. Hamas, and groups like it, have their stated, public goal being the complete destruction of Israel, and simply will not negotiate peace. At all. They consider it their religious duty to eradicate Jewish people for existing in the wrong place.

Yes, of course Israel's actions have made it worse, by giving Hamas oxygen and credibility, but it's a mischaracterization to treat Hamas as just some random guy Israel kept locked up.

There are no good guys in this conflict, and all involved - except for civilians on both sides - have been terrible to each other for a long time.

[–] anlumo 5 points 10 months ago

Palestine at least has the excuse that they haven’t voted for a long time, Israel doesn’t.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lil' baby bibi has never tried anythign remotely resembling negotiating for peace. Hamas is a terrorist organization. What is the Israeli government's excuse?

[–] kescusay 6 points 10 months ago

Far be it from me to defend him and his conservative government. Netanyahu has been an unmitigated disaster for Israel and for peace, no question.

Just look at this:

That's at the groundbreaking ceremony for a new, illegal settlement in the Golan Heights, named after Trump in honor of him supporting Israel's claim on the territory (and thereby discrediting the United States as a peace broker, unfortunately).

So yeah, I'm well aware that Netanyahu has been terrible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hamas isn't Palestine. But Hamas is the Gaza Strip. They are its government.

To be clear, that doesn't warrant the eradication that the Israeli military and the Likud party are executing.