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Palestinian Death Toll in Gaza Tops 13,000 as Israel Repeatedly Strikes U.N. Schools Housing Refugees (www.democracynow.org)

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Over the weekend, at least 82 Palestinians were killed in Israeli strikes on Jabaliya refugee camp, including multiple United Nations schools sheltering Palestinians. At least 85 incidents of Israeli bombing have impacted 67 facilities run by the United Nations relief agency for Palestine refugees (UNRWA) in the last two months. We speak with Tamara Alrifai, spokesperson for UNRWA, about the organization sheltering close to a million Palestinians from Israel’s assault, which has killed 104 of her colleagues since the beginning of the war — the highest number of United Nations aid workers killed in a conflict in the history of the United Nations. Alrifai says her agency is only getting half of the fuel they need to serve people in Gaza, being forced to choose between clean water, food and transport. “If UNRWA ceases to exist tomorrow, then there is a huge layer of stabilizing and stability that UNRWA usually offers in a very, very volatile area that also collapses.”

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

legitimate targets among civilians and human shields, THAT IS THE WAR CRIME HERE.

Like when Israel bombed a refugee camp to get a single Hamas Leader?

Oh, maybe you meant when Hamas targeted the preschools on Oct 7?

There are no saints in this war.

you deal with that by attacking anyway and demonstrate to the enemy that tactic does not work and will not be tolerated.

Hamas, seems to be doing fine, it's the people of Gaza that have to take the hits. Also not a warm idea for the hostages you've doomed to death.

the situation is beyond the point of tiptoeing around world opinion and rose-colored glasses wearing people like you.

Empathy, the word you are looking for is called Empathy.

any org that employs the tactics hamas has used should be wiped out.

Agreed, use better tactics, aim, and FFS stop hitting the children.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@HuddaBudda
hmm. spoken by someone that shows zero understanding of the real world. "Like when Israel bombed a refugee camp to get a single Hamas Leader?"-----yes. exactly that.

"Oh, maybe you meant when Hamas targeted the preschools on Oct 7?"
"Empathy, the word you are looking for is called Empathy"

do you have empathy for those killed on oct 7? do you have empathy for those crammed in shelters due to indiscriminate or blatant attacks on civilians by hamas? while their rockets may not be precision accurate, the ballistic characteristics alone offer enough accuracy to avoid them dropping in the middle of population centers in israel. do you have empathy for that?

empathy goes out the window after what happened oct 7. i watched the twin towers fall on 9/11 in new york. there was no talk of empathy. from anyone. but i heard a few comments about the world needing a reminder of what a nuke can do.

we are beyond empathy here. eliminating hamas and their underground infrastructure requires the tactics israel is using. THAT IS WAR. you want to talk empathy? have at it. civilians always lose in war. but don't talk like israel is the unholy offender here. hamas deserves what they are getting and palestinians need to oust hamas themselves to get my empathy. the video of them dancing in the streets the day after 9/11 tells me all i need to know about them.

@stopthatgirl7 @Annoyed_Crabby @OurTragicUniverse

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

do you have empathy for those killed on oct 7? do you have empathy for those crammed in shelters due to indiscriminate or blatant attacks on civilians by hamas? while their rockets may not be precision accurate, the ballistic characteristics alone offer enough accuracy to avoid them dropping in the middle of population centers in israel. do you have empathy for that?

We call this multi-tasking, but yes. Generally one can feel empathy for more then one party, it isn't a zero sum game.

empathy goes out the window after what happened oct 7. i watched the twin towers fall on 9/11 in new york. there was no talk of empathy. from anyone. but i heard a few comments about the world needing a reminder of what a nuke can do.

It is a shame people only watched our rage, and didn't learn the lesson 10 trillion dollars later, and all our hard work evaporating in 3 days.

Hypocrite that I am, fool I am not. Learn from our mistakes or be doomed to repeat them.

we are beyond empathy here. eliminating hamas and their underground infrastructure requires the tactics israel is using.

I disagree, there are better methods, more informed methods, safer methods for sure, if we thought about this any other way beside treating bombs like magic pixie dust that makes problems disappear.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol love hearing jackasses say "you don't understand the real world" when it's actually them that doesn't understand the real world and as an excuse to justify a genocide.

When the US took out Osama, it didn't do it with bombs. It was with special forces. Same is needed here.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@xerazal
most of you don't. the real world isn't rainbows and unicorn color farts.
calls me a jackass and then proceeds to somehow confuse 1 man with an organisation. nice job. if this is the best you can come up with then you are NOT doing yourself any favors.
you show me 1 special ops org in the world that can eliminate hamas by itself. there isn't one. anywhere. that requires these things called "armies". which have well equipped soldiers with support units, lines of communication and resupply, things you bleeding heart armchair wannabe generals don't know about.

and btw, look up the definition of genocide, how the term has been used historically, and then understand why it doesn't apply here. because there is a difference in scale, motivation, and outcome. and i'll ask this of all those who spout this shit.....if its a genocide then why aren't israeli's invading west bank? and no, a few raids and strikes doesn't count.

which all says its a campaign against hamas. which has little power in west bank.

try again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

Ah I see you've already rejected this publication because it's too "bleeding heart" for you lol.

Well, I don't have an article from Fox News or OANN, but:

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-11-19/israel-hostages-gaza-bombing-civilians-genocide-holocaust-studies

https://time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/

https://theweek.com/politics/the-genocide-debate-in-gaza

The most ambiguous of those says maybe not yet, but it's evidence that we need to act before it becomes reality.