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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Being ignorant of the facts doesn't change them.

Israel colonized and displaced the indigenous population 75+ years ago and have been doing the genocide thing ever since.

I agree it's not a conflict at all but a genocide.

[–] toasteecup -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're going to quote history, try quoting all of it not just the parts that suit your story.

Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and expeditionary forces from Iraq entered Palestine.[16][17][18][19] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements.[

Israel after the war had a significant interest in controlling access to the golan heights which was the pass used by those armies and passage was allowed by Palestine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

I don't know about you but if my neighbor is allowing people to walk into my yard and start a fight with me, I'm going to have a problem and want to have a controlled access solution.

And no, I'm not interested in further conversations with you specifically because I don't believe you're making good faith arguments. I believe that you're jumping on to at best a "fuck Israel" bandwagon and at worst a "fuck Jews" bandwagon that's all too common these days.

If anyone else is interested in discussing we can start with my stance, I am a Jew and I abhore the actions being taken in Israel and Palestine today. I wish for a peaceful resolution of the conflict and a solution that allows for a lasting peace where neither country is concerned with land based invasions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That says nothing of the displacement of the people there.

I'm a Jew as well but very far from a Zionist. Fuck Israel indeed. My ancestors weep at what Zionists are doing and trying to associate that with "Jewishness".

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