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Our little instance is closing to 6 months of operations and it occurs to me I never really asked for some open feedback from our peeps. So I wanted to start a discussion to see your concerns and comments in general. So tell me, in the context of the divisions by zero, what bothers you, what pleases you, what would you like to see improved.

Feel free to share your thoughts about anything.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I would appreciate a defederation from Hexbear. I'm really tired of getting swarmed by them and having to see their invariably shit political takes. I spoke a bit about it on the thread you made on /c/anarchism, but I thought I might as well speak about it again, since you asked.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

If they just say shit tankie takes, it's allowed in general. If they start harassing you for say, rejecting left unity, please report

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just wanted to chime in to, first of all, thank you for the fantastic work that you are doing, both here in running the instance and in general for the fediverse. I envy your energy to do all these things and as a person with knowledge and experience in various areas of Computer Science and IT, hats off to you. Where do you get all that motivation from?!

As for the topic on hand, I really really love it here mainly that this instance has so far avoided the defederation wars and I can enjoy all discussions from all other instances, including hexbear. Maybe it’s only me, but I hope there are more like me that want to come to their own conclusions based upon discussions from left, right and centre. But maybe it’s also because I mostly read and not write…

Defederation from my PoV is like censorship. People get more extreme in their views when they are not exposed to other ideas and opinions conflicting with their own beliefs. This kills any kind of civilized discussion in the long term.

Also, many of us forget that, even though we might not be fully anonymous, who we are here is not what defines us in the real life. Someone can come and say whatever, that I am the most miserable human on this planet, but is that who I really am? Would one say the same when met face to face?

Peace out, thank you for what you’ve done. Do or don’t keep it up, do whatever you please, it is all yours and you have already accommodated us not even once.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Where do you get all that motivation from

Insanity mostly I suspect 😅

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

This is less a report of their behavior and more a simple voicing of my wishes, as a member of the instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, one of their mods told me I should be put against a wall and shot, and no response from an admin when it was pointed out as a problem. Does that count?

I don’t think they should be defederated, but I ain’t happy with the laissez faire attitude their instance takes to such things if you’re deemed “other” enough to “warrant harassment.”

I could have been more observant and realized I was commenting in a hexbear community, but “don’t tell people they should be shot” is usually a pretty hard and fast rule in moderation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My approach here is: if this was an interaction in their space, it probably ok. This kind of "edgy" statements meant to "trigger the libs" is their modus operanti. So don't go into their areas unless prepared for this kind of interaction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that was my thinking as well tbh, it’s why I said I don’t think they should be defederated. Just wish there was a more apt way for lemmy to show “this is hexbear” without needing to check the community of every single post I see. Makes /all a little bit of a minefield.

More than half the time I click into a post without actually checking the community, and it’s something I need to work on. Just doesn’t matter 90% of the time.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They're as leftist as they can be. Hexbear have a full pro-Palestine stance and that's why some people want to defederate from it. Since full instance blocking is coming let them choose to block it themselves instead of choosing for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think people typically defederate from hexbear due to toxicity, bullying and tankyism rather than the pro-palestinian stance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

First, I would like to thank you for your awesome work !

Not all calls for defederate are caused by their pro-Palestinian stance, the tankyism is likely the reason for a fair bit but some definitely are.

Some users can be toxic but so are users from other instances. They can be easily blocked and a whole instance shouldn't pay the price for the action of some users. I honestly have yet to witness any bullying tho.

In the end, it doesn't really matter anymore since instance blocking is here, everyone will be free to choose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

. I honestly have yet to witness any bullying tho.

Oh man, I can link you to my meme about left unity, they attempted to bully me for 2 days straight. I think we exceeded 1k comments overall 😁

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My bad then. I am against bullying of any kind. Nothing good ever comes from bullying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

You'll find that the hexbears consider bullying a core praxis

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

For me, the fact that we DON'T defederate from hexbear is one of the things that makes dbzer0 awesome. We're just applying good rules, not personal annoyance like db0 is supreme ruler or God, they're just a person running a cool-ass instance. Block any community you want, soon you'll be able to block entire instances anyway.

Lets not get too worked up here. Peace.