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Honestly I think kbin (and lemmy) should default to sort comments by "old". I started using this for reddit some time ago and it's such a breath of fresh air. Also I think it better represents actual population of communities (of course it highlights both good and bad parts of it). Funniest thing is there are still puns - only instead of upvoted chains you see dozens (or hundreds) of the same unsuccessful attempts to start these chains by would-be "comedians", which is hilarious. This definitely helped me to understand on which subreddit comments are useless, and saved a lot of my time.
Lemmy sorting actually specifically tries to avoid that because all it does is reward the people who commment first. https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
Comments shouldn't have "upvotes" or ranking at all.
Reddit used to say 'the real life pro tip is always in the comments' or something to that effect.
Why shouldn't a comment that contributed, was genuinely useful or corrected information given by the post be able to naturally rise to the top?
I understand that we don't want "This is the way!" to become the highest top rated comment, but, in most threads useful top level comments get highlighted and off-top/factually incorrect/morally repugnant ones get punted to the bottom and ones that came late to the conversation are just floating in the middle (as compared to being at the end where chances of them ever being seen are even lower).
There are many forums that already have a flat design like that. The appeal of reddit or reddit-like forums is that useful information bubbles its way up to the top. This allows users to find the highest quality posts with the minimum amount of effort.
It also let's users show their appreciation for a post by upvoting it, or label a post as spam/garbage by down voting it.