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Self defense? Only on the battlefield? Only to achieve a β€˜noble’ end?

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force. If a use of force is justified then it isn't violence.

For example, suppose you're walking across a bridge and you see someone about to jump to their death. So you run over, pull them back from the brink, knock them down, and sit on them. Have you committed an act of violence? I would say not.

On the other hand, suppose the person is just standing on a street corner waiting for the light to change. If you run over, pull them back from the curb, knock them down, and sit on them, that would in fact be an act of violence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

A legal arrest can be violent. A soldier killing another is definitely going to be violent. Both can be legitimate uses of force.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Violence, by definition, is an unjustified use of force. If a use of force is justified then it isn’t violence.

You're right, but just to be clear: That is an English differentiation that doesn't exist in many other languages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's just a rhetorical device. I'm not suggesting that word definitions are prescriptive.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago

Weird. The question was asked in English.