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[–] Contramuffin 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Bit out of the loop - What's Meta, and what's its issue with joining Fediverse? I assume Meta isn't the same as the company behind Facebook (if it is, why does it want to join Fediverse?)

[–] Fabriek 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's exactly the Meta we're talking about. The most likely explanation is that Facebook wants to compete with Twitter and/or Bluesky and is planning to build an app using the ActivityPub protocol, which is what sites like Mastodon and Lemmy use to communicate with each other. Basically the idea seems to be that Instagram users will be able to communicate with the rest of the Fediverse.

Two weeks ago, it turned out a couple of mods of the larger instances had had secret (!) meetings with Meta. In a reaction, a group of instances decided to start a pact to preemptively block Meta.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically every meeting is secret if you don't tell the public

[–] Fabriek 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These mods signed NDA's in order to meet with Meta. This means they cannot share what was discussed. This is one of the reasons there are so many rumours about Meta's plans and how these meetings fit in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck Facebook, but they kind of have to have those conversations under NDA. The rules on insider trading for publicly traded companies are strict, and you have to make sure conversations that impact your big picture strategy stay private and only become public through specific channels.

[–] Fabriek 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, you can't blame Meta for asking for NDA's, but the mods could have refused to sign them. Others have done so since: https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah Meta is Facebook, the tl;dr is that it wants to use its "embrace extend extinguish" strategy to destroy the fediverse as we know it. That "How To Kill A Decentralised Network" article linked upthread explains how.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Contramuffin 4 points 1 year ago

Thank you for the link, it explains a lot

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It is Facebook Meta. The why is harder. I guess they want a piece of the Reddit pie, or want to take over the fediverse.