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Hey there is worse: look at Bethesda and starfield!
I mean... the most negative thing I've heard about Starfield is that it's a bit empty, and doesn't meet the (insanely high) bar that Skyrim set. A lot of people I know bought Starfield at launch, played it through once or twice, and although they stopped after that they didn't have any really bad things to say.
Fallout 76 was a much worse game, with way more negative sentiment.
I don't think that's comparable. Starfield still mostly feels like their old games, it just hasn't changed so the game feels like it's 10+ years old versus any real innovation. Bethesda is just stubbornly frozen in time without any fresh ideas. Bioware now versus Bioware then is a much more noticeable difference, in my opinion.
If you see it like this yes. But then you can remember that for skyrim it was seen as the pinacle of its art at the time. As you say, Bethesda has been frozen in time since then, but it is a slow descent to nothingness. Because the world didn't wait for them and independent studios are doing as well or better than what Bethesda is doing.
Another way to see it is that Bethesda needed 12 years to do what it did with skyrim. Many others did simply better.
With bioware they're a shadow of their former self, but at least they tried to do new things. They failed, but even andromeda for example is not as empty of innovations as starfield feels.
IMO Bethesda survives only thanks to the devotion of its fans, but they're irrelevant now.
I dunno, Starfield still has a ton of greatly written quests. Not all of the quests are great, or even good, but there's still a lot of memorable moments in it. The main drawback of Starfield is its gameplay being fairly shallow by today's standards.
I wouldn't say Bethesda is irrelevant. I just think it's long overdue for Todd to step away from the helm. Starfield was a fairly big success, so I think the numbers speak for themselves in showing they're still a major player. That being said, I think if they don't truly strike gold with TES6, that will likely be the last chance that most gamers will give them.