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[–] somethingsnappy 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The simplest explanation is that if Israel knew where Hamas is, they would have taken them out before any attack by Hamas. They don't know.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they kill more than 4000 children? Would they have done the same if the kidnappers were anywhere else in the world? What makes killing over 10,000 civilians a fair trade?

The purpose of this war on Gaza is ethnic cleansing.

[–] somethingsnappy 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It doesn't make it a fair trade. My point is they have no idea who they are targeting, or they would have been doing targeted take downs before the conflict.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Collective punishment is a war crime. Having a 90% death rate being civilians is a war crime. Targeting hospitals, schools, water wells, aid trucks and bakeries is a war crime.

They said so themselves. The intent is ethnic cleansing. They have said as much that the goal is to depopulate the Gaza Strip. They have called Palestinians “human animals”.

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.

“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/

[–] thatsage -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The intent is not ethnic cleansing - unless you consider Hamas, the terrorist group, an ethnic group... And nobody "said as much".

Also, I strongly doubt that 90% figure being accurate for Gaza.

[–] somethingsnappy -5 points 1 year ago

That is one of the laziest info graphs I've ever seen. All of this is terrible, bit please redo it for the first few months of each conflict. This graph was made to show the US as saviors.

[–] Madison420 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's almost like an occupied populace is in itself an inbuilt insurgency for the obvious reasons.

Oddly enough a lesson not learned from WW2.

[–] Maggoty 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh the lesson was learned. It's just being used to kill the oppressed population.

[–] Madison420 2 points 1 year ago

It was in Paris as well, time makes martyrs of oppressed children.

[–] somethingsnappy -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. Not really the point of the discussion, and also patronizing, but I wish you a good day.

[–] Madison420 1 points 1 year ago

How exactly was it patronizing?

[–] Madison420 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, thermobarics make tunnels deathtraps and Israel certainly has the thermobarics we sold them.

[–] kbotc -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel’s not using Fuel-Air bombs here. There’s no point. They’re just using a shedload of mk 80 series with guidance systems. Probably the Mk 81s that the US brought back into service to try and reduce collateral damage during the Iraq war.

[–] Madison420 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hamas leadership is in Qatar.