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You know that old chain email about comparing someone to Hitler to instantly win an argument, as an internet cheat code, that was just a joke, right? It doesn't really work that way.
I'm not saying Meta are Nazis. I'm saying the position vis a vis Meta and Meta's enablers is very much the same as how you'd have to deal with Nazis and Nazi enablers: excision.
I'm sure a lot of people using Meta are very nice, decent, ordinary people. But they're still keeping an organization that is literally tearing society apart from within alive and thriving. There's no way to support them without also supporting Meta, and thus aiding and abetting Meta's abuse of society.
I do have a beef with them. A large one. Large enough that I excised them from my digital world almost a decade ago and have not looked back. If you're comfortable engaging with people who blithely give support to those who work hard to destroy the social order ... well, you be you, Boo. You be you.
To be clear, I'm all for not federating with Meta, because of what a toxic company it is. Most people have escaped from Twitter or Reddit, how can there be a debate to allow Facebook in? Crazy talk.
I was reacting to the comment saying to allow Meta but ban all the users, which I'm saying is exactly backwards. Any normal user of Meta products should be welcome in the Fediverse. You can't just say that a billion of people are evil because they use a product for some reason. Stupid maybe, but also may be forced to, and mostly just don't know any better. Was I evil when I was using Reddit?
It's the dystopian corpos that have no place here whatsoever.
I'm not saying the users of Meta are evil. I'm saying they're supporting Meta and thus their presence is as unwelcome as Meta. They can leave it any time they like and I'll welcome them with open arms, but anybody on a Meta-based instance is simply insta-blocked.