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EU poised to water down new car pollution rules after industry lobbying (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] takeda 11 points 1 year ago (14 children)

They did. Starting 2035, ICEs won't be sold anymore in EU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Actually they went back on it at the start of the year, ICEs are allowed to be sold as long as they run on 100% carbon neutral fuels. The total ICE ban was going to completely shut the door on hydrogen so they changed the wording.

[–] uis 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Doesn't hydrogen use fuel cells anyway? Fuel cells aren't ICE.

Edit: yep, fuel cells. So this was bullshit edit so automakers can keep selling their ICE.

[–] TheWeirdestCunt 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

High pressure hydrogen is a thing too and regular petrol engines can be converted to run on it. Toyota already did it with an old corolla and a rally Yaris https://mag.toyota.co.uk/restomod-ae86/ https://mag.toyota.co.uk/hydrogen-gr-yaris-showcases-experimental-engine/ so not fully shutting the door but still a big hindrance.

[–] uis 1 points 1 year ago

ICE with ideal transmission is less efficient, than real fuel cell + PMSM.

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