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Yeah, that's not socialism. That's the Right's wet dream.
So all this insulting me in your other post isn't because you actually want UBI, but because you think it's the only thing Americans are stupid enough to vote for?
Since I'm trying to go about this educated, let's make sure. We're in agreement that UBI is objectively worse than universal welfare, right? So we're just talking about whether UBI is the best conservative shit that uneducated Americans are willing to buy?
I'd be willing to buy that. But I still need to know how to resolve the issue of impoverished leftists being made poorer. I'm assuming the plan you're in love with (or just don't hate) isn't Yang's stupid plan. So what's YOUR plan? Would you make it work without gutting welfare?
What is it with UBI fans being so ad-hominem focused against the Left? I'm literally asking people to give me reasons to consider UBI and with my complaints, and all people do is treat me like I'm a moron.
Is it that there ISN'T anything substantive, and it's just a blind dream that someday someone will come up with a UBI that works?
Our discussion has ended, and I'm hoping the mods take my reports seriously.
The left is against the left? You ask questions but ignore answers. You have provided nothing substantial, if self awareness was a disease you'd be the healthiest person alive.