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Apple Music isn't the best streaming music service — it's just the least annoying::Competitors like Spotify and YouTube Music may be your first choice for music on Android, but you might want to reconsider

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[–] kescusay 54 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Yah no. Apple's insistence on making everything a pain in the ass if you don't own an Apple device makes it a nonstarter, and YouTube Music just works.

My kids have iPads because they're both artists, but I'll be damned if they're getting any money from me for their craptacular - and yes, deeply annoying - music service. Hell, even setting up the iPads was annoying, because I don't have any Apple devices of my own, and family controls require them, even though there's no reason it couldn't be done on a website.

Fuck Apple.

[–] Kid -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hade you tried setting up an Xbox without being a Microsoft user?

Fuck Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

What kind of illogical comment is that? First, you bring in Microsoft to a discussion it is not a part of; second, just because Microsoft does it wrong, it doesn't give Apple a license to do things the convoluted way too.

[–] kescusay 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apples and oranges. For all its faults (and there are lots), Microsoft doesn't require you to own a Microsoft phone or tablet in order to set up an XBox's parental controls. You can do it from a website with any device you want - including the Linux machines I use almost exclusively for computing.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can you give me an example of where Apple requires you to have one of their devices to set up a different device? As far as I am aware this isn’t the case, and I believe that is actually illegal in the us.

[–] kescusay 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to have a Mac or iOS device configured with a parent's account to set up shared apps and parental controls on iPads for kids. That's because there is no web interface to configure them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That seems insane to me. Obviously using a parent account makes sense. I wonder if it’s just insanely difficult to find? I know I can change family settings on the website, but have no idea about parental controls. It seems like it’d be illegal to require a second device to set up the first device, no?

[–] kescusay 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Believe me, if it existed, I would have found it. I spent hours searching, and basically all of Apple's documentation said you needed to go to your own Mac or iOS device to configure it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that’s insane to me.

[–] PrimePathPioneer 1 points 1 year ago

If you want to register a laptop with the apple business manager you have to use the configurator mobile app, so not even having another apple pc is sufficient, to set up a mobile device you have to use the configurator desktop app.

https://support.apple.com/guide/apple-business-manager/add-devices-from-apple-configurator-axm200a54d59/web

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