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[–] GrammatonCleric 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's your opinion on flails?

[–] GoFastBoots 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The haft with a long chain and ball on the end is fantasy. However, I fought with one for a couple of years as a combat actor/choreographer and ren-faire reenactor and would say that the flail is a duelist's weapon only. And in a duel its chief function is to remove your opponent's shield.

A well placed flail strike will go around the guard of your opponent and potentially break fingers, hand, wrist, or arm.

You can also try to use it to disarm their primary weapon but it's less reliable in this regard as it becomes a tug of war strength contest.

Use your flail to break their hand and make them drop their shield and then drop the flail and draw your side sword or whatever else you happen to have.

Too slow and clumsy of a weapon to fight against a group or near allies.

[–] Venat0r 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An even weirder one, a flail with a bike style chain: https://youtu.be/K5sPDbwr7EI

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems to me like a bearded axe does many of the same things while being easier to control and being more effective as a striking weapon, no?

[–] GoFastBoots 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah pretty much, which is why the axe was actually used and flails as we know them are fantasy weapons. The flail has the intimidation and cool factor but otherwise I'd rather have an axe.

The flail might have more reach, but the longer the chain the slower the weapon and more skill required to land a blow.

[–] Pinecone 4 points 1 year ago

One handed flails were never used in warfare. They were made for decoration. There was a 2 handed flail that couldn't reach the user but it was still not very effective.

[–] Candelestine 2 points 1 year ago

Hits really hard. Probably kinda hard to use. If I picked up a real one I'd probably end up giving myself a concussion somehow.

I guess I don't know very much about flails... I thought they were more of a cavalry weapon irl, but I'd have to look that up. Unless it's the old makeshift farm implement version that some peasants probably picked up at different points.