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Context: this is a legit screenshot I took on my workplace around 1.5 years ago. Hopefully it's been patched by now? Completely ridiculous behavior

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[–] killeronthecorner 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I half agree but the idea that Macs aren't as expressive or versatile as any other laptop is so antiquated now. More than half of the software engineering industry is using macs as primary machines.

Why? Because the software and hardware gets out of the fucking way and let's you focus on getting things done. I remember a time before Macs were the popular choice and I remember everyone spending 25% of their time fighting with drivers or obscure machine-specific software install or development build issues.

Even getting rid of the bloat is easy. Highlight apps, drag them to recycle bin, done. And as you said, a 3-5 year upgrade cycle makes the premium far less of an issue.

I certainly have family members that use Macs because they are tech illiterate, but that's further evidence of their versatility.

There's so much to shit on Apple for, but the myth of Macs being in some obscure home computer niche needs to die.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've been using windows PCs for 25 years and struggle with the damn Mac at work. The usability of the thing is just utter garbage. Nothing is better but everything is different just... because. I've wasted so much time learning the fucking thing and still nothing just works.

Want to take a screenshot? Press 3 keys. You better remember them because it's the most random fuckery imaginable. You like the cut & paste shortcuts of windows? We've something similar except it doesn't work everywhere for some reason. This shit goes on and on.

I don't know why Apple hates a proper Taskbar. I miss it everytime I struggle to find one of my open applications. Which is always.

[–] killeronthecorner 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is because you're stuck in a very specific mental model of computing, so using anything that isn't Windows will feel frustrating if you're unwilling to adapt.

I've been using Windows for 30 years this year (3.0 gang!) and building PCs for almost that long. I had a similar reaction to Linux when I first started using it. But I persisted and realized there were tasks I could perform faster and, importantly, with more safety on Linux than on Windows. So I stuck with it and now I use headless Linux almost as much as macOS and Windows

Also, if you've really gone full Pavlov on Windows modifier keys, you can remap cmd to Ctrl in system settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] killeronthecorner 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was complaining about MacOS and you brought up Linux for some reason. I am aware I can do anything on Linux I can on Windows. I've used it briefly from time to time and it has a very windows-like work flow for basic stuff. MacOS doesn't.

[–] killeronthecorner 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"I had similar issues with Y as you have had with X"

This was the nature of the statement.

You're conflating all Linux distros and window managers as being the same and as being similar to Windows, which is a non sequitur

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know but I am having issues with Y because of Y. I wouldn't have those issues with X.

[–] killeronthecorner 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're unwilling to engage with a new approach to performing the same tasks, then yes. Which was my point to begin with.

If you like windows stick with windows. You don't have to like something for the sake of it. Personal preference is what it is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point was it's a myth that MacOS is simple or efficient. Basic stuff is either overly complicated or straight up impossible.

[–] killeronthecorner 2 points 1 year ago

It's not, you just don't know how to use it well. But I don't think this conversation will change that so it's all good.