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I think all Christians should watch The Good Place. It does a great job showing why the most Christian concepts of heaven and hell aren't ethically sound.
It is a hilarious show that is also like a really great introductory ethics class. It sounds weird, but it works.
It pokes fun at a lot of ethical viewpoints. It shows the short comings deontological (lawful good, follow the rules) several times even though one of the main characters loves Kant. Christian ethics is pretty much deontological, but inconsistent and impossible to actually follow to a T.
I also think it is probably the best series of all time. At least the best I have seen. It is loaded with references, foreshadowing, details and subtleties. I have seen the whole thing 4-5 times and notice new things every time.
It wouldn’t help with the hell fear at all though.
Their own book should help. Calvinists make a good point. In Exodus, the pharaoh was going to give in to the Jews, but god changed the pharaoh's mind. Later in Romans, god/Jesus/Paul pretty much comes out and says everything is determined by God, so there is no free will. So fearing hell is pointless, it isn't up to you.
All it takes is one ounce of doubt to honestly search for truth to see through the Bible.
Thomas Paine did an amazing job pointing out the problems with the Bible using the Bible as his reference. He dated the authorship of the earliest books at around 500BCE, which isn't far off from the oldest fragments found.
I don't feel good so my brain is broken, hence the rambling tangents.
I never understood how Lucifer's rebellion even happened. Didn't God only give free will to humans? So how could any of the angels do anything against God's will? And if that's correct, God set Lucifer up to "rebel" just so he could cast him out?
And if "everything is according to God's will or plan", then God is responsible for all the bad things that happen too. You can't blame anything on the devil because Angels don't have free will and everything is part of God's plan.