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[–] DaBabyAteMaDingo 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most economic systems are inherently morally neutral. They're just tools with no sentience - so I don't understand how you can say capitalism is inherently corrupt when you literally said communism hasn't been implemented properly in any country or state. It seems to me like communism is more flawed if it can be exploited more easily.

Please don't say you're an anarchist or I'll have even less respect for you. 😂

Seriously, though, I used to be a pretty radical socialist until I did some real research (not trying to insult you, I mean that I looked at my beliefs through a very critical lens and my ideologies didn't stand up to real scrutiny) and soul searching to end up leaning closer to what you would call a soc-dem.

I genuinely believe that you communists and anarchists want better living standards for every human on earth. But I think you guys have been lied to about the evils of capitalism and how good the system can truly be. And I concede that the extreme disparities between the rich and poor in a capitalist system are pretty fucking gross.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

so as I was trying to answer this I came across this little part. Here is a list of a couple of anarchist (and therefor communist) societies.

None of these lasted for very long because they were quickly either subverted or destroyed by statists. This, for me, is not a flaw of anarchism (or communism) as a concept and instead happened because the movement did not reach critical mass. Not enough people believed in the system for it to work.

Also note under the Russian revolution chapter the """communists""" were the enemy, as they were the ones that destroyed the systems that were actually communists in order to create their state capitalist state,

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-full#text-amuse-label-seca5 A.5 What are some examples of “Anarchy in Action”?
A.5.1 The Paris Commune
A.5.2 The Haymarket Martyrs
A.5.3 Building the Syndicalist Unions
A.5.4 Anarchists in the Russian Revolution
A.5.5 Anarchists in the Italian Factory Occupations
A.5.6 Anarchism and the Spanish Revolution
A.5.7 The May-June Revolt in France, 1968

But I still insist that even if these examples weren't there it proves nothing about the potential of the system. Progress is making things that do not exist. The statement that something doesn't exist is not proof that it can't.

Also if you look at my post history I have done a lot of reflecting on why I believe in anarchism and nothing has made me doubt that it is possible. The only thing stopping it is the greed of people, and as we are seeing what that causes I am hoping that too gets fixed.

Also I absolutely support any form of government you want to create as long as you allow me to live in my commune. In that sense I am a federalist. I believe that on a macro scale humanity works best if different societies can all coexist together, so everyone can find their place. I actually see it as macro-anarchism, the same fundamental beliefs that govern an anarchist society implemented on all of humanity.