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If they want to be serious about this, they need games. Not only a handful that they proudly announce at the September event every year, but most/all major AAA titles from day one.
Then, if they want to reach as many people as possible, they need to offer an affordable product that has enough power to properly play games. Sure, it's nice that the MacBook Air can do some light gaming and it's quite impressive for a device without a fan. But the GPU of the base M2 doesn't really cut it for triple A titles, and 8 GB of RAM in the base configuration won't motivate developers to port their games over, especially as it's both system and graphics memory. Developers already complain about the Xbox Series S, and it comes with 10 GB.
So I highly doubt we'll see more than the usual MacBook Pros with M3 Pro/Max, that sure can do some gaming, but are also $2,000+ devices.
To be fair the 8GB of RAM works a lot differently compared to x86 architecture. You can squeeze a lot more out of SOC 8GB. Unless they announce something amazing tonight, I’ll be sticking with my M1 16GB Mini.
Right, but the latency of the swap is much quicker. So in essence you can squeeze more out of 8GB when optimized properly. Obviously memory is memory, but how that memory can be used is one of the keys to the M architecture.
You’re not getting more out of 8gb, you’re getting more out of the swap speed. its hitting the SSD at that point and you’re going to be sharing the bandwidth on those lanes with whatever else needs the SSD during that time
That’s what I said lol
Ah I think my brain just interpreted what you said differently.
That won't matter much though. For productivity that setup will work quite well, but for gaming where you need data from memory ASAP and consistently fast, even those SSD swaps will cause jittering, especially if it's also shared with the GPU.
I see lot of discussion justifying 8gb vs higher. I think we can go round and round around this topic all day. But thing is ram is cheap just fucking put more ram in apple. Freaking base steam deck is selling for 350dollars? Has 16gb ram and apple device will cost at least 1000 dollars just put in more ram. They can always make more money by selling higher storage options.