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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't get it, apart from companies wanting to cover their corporate real estate investments.

All of my work is on a computer

All of my colleagues' work is on computer.

So why the fuck would I want to meet in person to address a problem? So one of us can literally breathe down the other's neck looking at the same screen?

GTFO.

[–] howsetheraven 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You just said it in your first sentence. It's not rocket surgery, your literal meat existence will be used for passive profit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Oh, I'm aware, but the corporate bull shit they push to sell us on it is insulting to our collective intelligence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If that’s the reason WFH should be the new normal in a couple of years when leases are up. That won’t happen though.

[–] WolfhoundRO 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For their greedy brains, this is literally about control and surveillance. They can't make sure that you are working the full company time and even overtime while at home in your comfort and pyjamas.

[–] III 7 points 1 year ago

Correct - not that their big-brother asses would be caught dead in areas where the employees work. They just want to feel like people are there. It's enough to bring in a cardboard cut-out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's wild about that is that I am working outside business hours when I wfh. I'm showing up earlier, staying later, doing little quick things when i think of them rather than putting them off until the next day in the office, and I'm taking a lot less PTO because there's a pretty wide gulf between "too sick to get fully dressed, drive for 45 minutes and face actual human beings in person" and "too sick to accomplish anything if I'm left alone and allowed to take breaks when i need them". But you're right, there is a certain school of management that teaches that employees are an enemy who want nothing more than to steal from the company by being paid to do nothing, that a manager's primary job is to catch and punish these slackers, and that a lack of evidence of employees slacking off is proof that they're lazy and smart enough to hide it. Fortunately for me I now have a boss who knows that I do this work because I like it and that the team and the work will benefit most from me being left alone to do it and occasionally helped with blockers as they come up.

[–] Deftdrummer 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You actually touched on something that really pisses me off about my 100% work from home job.

It's the fact that my boss can somehow justify that you roll yourself out of bed and log in. He literally uses the phrase sometimes "too sick to log in?" As a means of discouragement from calling out sick, or at the very least get some productivity out of you while you're sick.

Name a job that would try this shit in real life? When you've called out you've called out, it doesn't mean reduced workload because you're sick ffs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Name a job that would try this shit in real life?

Idk, literally all of them? The fact that it's physically impossible for them to bring the workload to your house doesn't mean they aren't gonna try every other method of manipulation and social pressure in an effort to get you to sacrifice yourself for the good of the company.

[–] Deftdrummer -2 points 1 year ago

Well, the idea is that there are "levels" to being sick. In CA this shit would never fly.

I don't even like calling it "sick" I call out for the day, period. I'm not calling in sick or calling in hung over or calling in for family reasons, I'm fucking NOT AVAILABLE for today.

This is the bullshit that wfh has brought and of course not all companies are doing this.

[–] Frozengyro 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are paying those investments prices if people are in the office or not. At least if people are WFH and used to it, you can downsize your office if and when the need arises.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Or the lease expires.

Exactly much of my argument for WFH

[–] Deftdrummer 0 points 1 year ago

That's what my company did and it feels a bit odd. Like we have no "home" now.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Or

Are you just shilling against yourself in a game of 4D chess where they can now save money on realestate by forcing you to use your own home for their profit. The best part, you now think it was your idea. A sucker born every day.

Fuck work. It has no place in my home and family, I won’t use my home for their profit. I’ll catch the train into work just to keep it out of my life and the two separated as far as possible.

[–] Deftdrummer 0 points 1 year ago

This is an interesting idea. I am 100% work from home and I can tell you all that it's not all roses.

I have zero work friends, hell I've never met over 75% of them in real life. There is very little room for networking and skills building because I'm in my spare bedroom all the time. I'm glad I'm a little older but if I weren't this would be a career killer in some regards.

I have to think about what I'm going to eat every single day (no running off for lunch) and I'm expected to be on camera during our meetings.

I have zero commute, but that just means I hardly get a chance to ride my motorcycle anymore.

I've gone over my internet cap once, and because we're at home, the AC or the heat or whatever needs to be ran 100% of the time I'm telling you it's not all roses.