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[–] steventhedev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want to take an absolutist position like declaring the south of Gaza a completely safe zone, then you're going to be disappointed by reality. Military campaigns never say "this is an absolute safe zone". It's always shades of gray.

Withholding water is absolutely contemptible, which is probably why they walked that back after a day. The bigger issue is the existing infrastructure wasn't designed for the current population, much less the population doubling overnight, which is why the water distribution is failing. That is 100% on Hamas as they have had full control of the Gaza Strip since 2007. Perhaps if they used pipes to build water and sewage infrastructure instead of building rockets but the past can't be changed.

It's a dangerous situation, and more aid needs to go in than has until now. Thankfully, it seems that will happen soon.

[–] snek -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can make up all sorts of excuses but at the end of the day it's Israeli missiles that directly killed civilians. Excuses made to excuse war crimes.

[–] steventhedev 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I try to take people at what they say. Israel says they are shooting at Hamas members. Hamas are pretty up front that they target Israeli civilians. Always have been.

For what it's worth, I hope you're wrong about Israel. The alternative would mean there is no hope for any mutual lasting peace. Certainly not so long as you believe it.

[–] snek -1 points 1 year ago

Israel is upfront about targeting Palestinian civilians. 8k dead so far.

[–] snek -1 points 1 year ago

Try to take them by their actions not their words. Don't be naive.