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So it's all or nothing? 🤡
1/620
0.16%
Even accounting for population it's still blatantly obvious to anyone with half a brain that guns = shooting
And the US knife killing rate is still higher than the US. Just a bit more murdery I suppose. But then us Europeans shipped all the religious nutters out to the US for a reason
Ah yes... cherry pick the statement.
Literally followed right after. Clown harder.
Lol, the US homicide rate is 7x the UK. Explain that
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Man, you're funny. Trying to twist 620% more shootings as what exactly?
Sure... Gangs and drug trafficking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population
Specifically from Central and South Americas. The SHEER number difference between the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS vs how many you got over there in the UK?
Never been to Glasgow then?
Nope I haven't... Been all over Germany and Poland, also incidentally to Romania and Ireland in a very limited fashion. But I did eventually find an answer to my own question...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangs_in_the_United_Kingdom
Which translates to about 5 per 10000 people are in a gang in Britain...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population
Which translates to about... 42 per 10000 people are in a gang here in USA...
So a 5-6times increase in homicide lines up basically perfectly.
Edit: whoops used the wrong number initially... it's much higher...
So you think having more guns is the solution?
Taking them away certainly isn't... Criminals don't care about laws... That's kind of the definition.
It's the American way, only do the right thing after you've exhausted every other option
I'm not tracking. You think that taking guns away will somehow make the 1.4 million people abstain from gang violence?
What does the evidence say? I'd bet that taking guns away leads to less gun deaths.
It's weird that nobody banged on about gun rights until the black panthers did.
Not shit sherlock. But taking guns away doesn't lower homicide rates. Odd that you can reduce gun deaths but not reduce deaths overall isn't it?... At this point we're talking in circles. I've covered this so many posts ago with you.
Not sure how this is even remotely relevant.
https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act
Yes... I know who and what the Black Panthers are and the history around it...
What's the point of bringing this up in this conversation? How is this relevant to ANYTHING we're discussing?
We're talking about gun control